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    It makes you sick sometimes, doesn't it? Hyeenas masturbating on a potential scandal that isn't there, yet you'll make it a scandal so you .. well have stories and make money. I think it's preverted that media as an independent player is seen as the corner stone of free press/speech and so forth and isn't controlled by politicians so it's a good thing. I agree it's a good thing, but it becomes part of the problem these days. Not only does it work as the repeating machine of politicians in some situations and disregards everything else on purpose, it sometimes plays politics. It actually does politics in scale that is ridiculous. It has too much of a self interest to make up stuff that it actually does it. This isn't journalism that should be the ideal of free press and so forth, it is the bastard child of entertainment news that twists the knowledge of people and what the current issues are. It's mostly the things they don't say that matters, but sometimes it's the thing they say that makes it so obvious it makes me sick.

    We have this "scandal", where our foreign minister has sent some naughty SMS message to some bimbo blond. Let me say it again, it's not some self respecting woman who has recieved messages and is going for her own, it's a slut who wants to make waves. It's nto even the kiss and tell type of people we're talking about, it's pure slut, period.

    So does that make a huge difference, factually no. The minister did send the messages. However, it's been blown out of proportion. The tabloids have crap like "the minister is not going to resign". The placement and choosing of the wordings are interesting. They're nothing but hyping it up with an agenda to blow it bigger and to hopefully have the minister resigning, because that would be the biggest news then. This is basically self interest motivated "reporting".

    First it wasn't that interesting, but you keep it in the headlines for few weeks. Nothing comes up so you make stories like calling the minister and "are you going to have a divorce?" so then you can amke a story about "minister is not going to divorce her wife" and then call the wife up and same ****. You soon realize there are unlimited amount of crap you can do so that's what you do.

    You place questions like "the trust is gone?" as in if it represents the current situation. Bored? Can't get any friction? Have a poll! The great inventions of the satanist the 21th century. Soon you'll have everything you needed to drum up what you want and keep it going for few more weeks. OF COURSE it's a scandal soon because you keep making the waves, the actual event was close to meaningless.

    Man I hate these hyeenas. Not because they make ****ty stories but because they're becoming the disrupting force of just about anything. It's not reporting, it's creating scandals these days. That's not healthy and that definitely has nothing to do with democracy, except trashing the idea of it. It wouldn't matter normally, since tabloids carry no real power and people recognize it as crap, but when you have few big tabloids and people actually mix them up with real news and in fact it is the only source of news for many.... you see the problem? It's totally screwed up.

    I hate trash media. It would be OK if they were marginalized, but since they're the key players now and otehrs are being marginalized, it's not really that funny. I'd like to punch few of these "journalists"/pornographists in the face and break their faces for making us all a bit more dumb every single day.
    In da butt.
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  • #2
    Agreed. I've lost all the little respect that i had left for Helsingin Sanomat & Yle during the last week because their reporting of this poop.

    This crap has actually made me supportive of Kanerva, whom i never thought too highly.

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    • #3
      You mean the press createsscandal by taking things out of context?
      Be careful, they might quote your post, Pekka...

      ...to blow it bigger and to hopefully have the minister...
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      • #4
        Jrabbit,

        That's always been an issue, but it gets to a point where the scandal wasn't there to begin with. It's a whole new level of weird and totally wrong. You will always have these scavengers, however, when there's nobody left to defend true journalism, now that's a scary prospect that we're facing. It leads to the total dumbification of the nation, I don't see how it could be prevented.

        Julian, I don't lke the guy either, but I like him more after this. Too much **** for nothing really, I think he's handled it pretty well by not elaborating things, just staying a bit quiet. Remember when the press ripped a new one for Vanhanen with the Kuronen thing? I had new found respect for Vanhanen as well, never liked the guy, still don't, but he handled it perfectly. And it's not easy to remain quiet and take all that crap for so long. So

        I have a friend who works for YLE, he lost his respect for their news a LONG time ago. HS is becoming more like a tabloid paper as well, unfortunately.
        In da butt.
        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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        • #5
          This Just In!: Kanerva Resigns!


          My Words Are Backed With Bad Attitude And VETERAN KNIGHTS!

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          • #6
            This is biggest crap i've ever witnessed in Finnish media.

            Witch hunters must be happy now, how about we get rid of some incompetent ministers next (HINT - LINDEN).

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            • #7
              I do hope that resigning news is April Fools... Has this "scandal" in any way prevented him from doing his job? Other than reporters harassing him? I don't think so. It's a non-issue.

              I frakkin' hate the finnish word "kohu"... Most of the things that have that label... I've never even heard about.

              (How would one translate the word "kohu", with the attached negative meaning?)


              Says there, that he has lost "the general public respect", and cannot continue as a minister. FFS... He has gained respect, in my book*, and the guy, that sacked him, just lost the little I reserve for any politician.


              *Except, the bimbo was rather plainlooking, with fraudulent mammorial appendixes. So no kudos from that.
              I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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              • #8
                Yep, "kohu*" is nowadays a totally meaningless thing labeled as such by tabloids or 7 päivää.

                Translations offered by sanakirja.org

                1. stir
                2. ruckus
                3. sensation
                4. hullabaloo

                Proud day for Finnish media, not so much for Finnish journalism.

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                • #9
                  What the hell, did it just happen?

                  Tabloids were actually able to oust a minister with this? Seriously, this is ****ed. You knwo this won't be the last time, now they're actually horny for things like these, they feel powerful.

                  oh my...
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                  THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                  "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                  • #10
                    Naughty SMS messages
                    Last edited by Kuciwalker; April 1, 2008, 11:24.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pekka
                      What the hell, did it just happen?

                      Tabloids were actually able to oust a minister with this? Seriously, this is ****ed. You knwo this won't be the last time, now they're actually horny for things like these, they feel powerful.

                      oh my...
                      This reminded me of Jäätteenmäki hunting few years back, but then they actually had some reason for it.

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                      • #12
                        Yes. Imagine that.

                        Compare to Linden. Not really an interesting topic. It woudln't sell, people aren't interested in this legal this or that. But this one is about sex, so...... that's the difference between minister resigning or not. I wonder what's next.
                        In da butt.
                        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                        • #13


                          I feel compelled to order HS today and cancel it tomorrow, telling them that reason was this "TEXT MESSAGE RUCKUS STIR HULLABOOBOO".

                          HS using Hymy as their source .

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                          • #14
                            oh yeah heard about it on the radio today. They even said, that they investigated a bit because HS had the message BEFORE Hymy ever was released so.... nice one there guys.
                            In da butt.
                            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                            • #15
                              See http://www.hs.fi/politiikka/artikkel.../1135235228028

                              One of the few sensible discussions i've seen about the matter, even if it's HS. The story OTOH.. well take a look .

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