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  • #16
    Aaargh!!!

    I so much hate the word kohu as well. It really pisses me off. And they're always looking for those kohublondis as well. They're not kohublondis, they're btiches. Let's make it straight, it's the more proper label.

    Besides the media can do no wrong, because they can make themselves the bad guy. You see, that also sells . It's like the joke about advertising people by Bill Hicks, where he says "If you're in advertising, go kill yourself", and then all the marketers are always saying good, you're going for the let's hate marketing dollar, it's a big dollar, good business, right?

    So it sucks, and these days, our few tabloids have simply grown too big. If one makes a scandal like this, others have to follow. But it used to be other tabloids, not all media. It is as if they're afraid of missing out. Which is a fact, they would be missing out if they didn't do their own massive dirty work, unfortunately they know this.

    But of course real journalism is the victim here as well as everything else. It's about money, once again. It is a perverted world where media asks what we want, and we want dirt, even made up ****, as long as it's juicy. Then it delivers, and we want more so they give more.

    But in this case, it goes the other way around. It creates the demand by making up stuff. It's not that it was asked, now it was just given anyway. If stories like these don't get the friction needed, we know they'll just pound it for two weeks, looking for new angles. They don't drop it, they've already invested into making it a big story. This time it goes even further than that, this time it has actual ramifications, serious consequences. Unfortunately this will only excite these horny bastards in the future. Can you imagine, that you can't evne tell an obnoxious tabloid punk to get f'd, because oh well, that's going to be it?

    It is as if police breaks the law, is investigated by the same police and the outcome is judged by police. How can police then do wrong? It can't. When it becomes aware of this, does the abuse and corruption go up or down?
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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    • #17
      It's really weird, now they're making him look like a victim (which he is). As in we're so sorry, but that's yet just another thing to write about, another set of crap to go on about for few days. It's really quite sick if you think about it.
      In da butt.
      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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      • #18
        SKANDAL!!! STIR!! HULABALOO!!!

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        • #19
          page not found?
          In da butt.
          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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          • #20
            I had to tinyurl it, for some reason forum broke the link. Now it's ok.

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            • #21
              Seriously.. WTF.

              Tuoreimmat talousuutiset maksuttomasti. Osakkeet, rahastot ja markkinatiedot.


              Taloussanomat .

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              • #22
                again, page not found
                In da butt.
                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                • #23
                  Again, tried, noticed, fixed. I guess ill use tinyurl straight away from now.

                  I want to break things.

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                  • #24
                    Hey, we'll be getting real news soon .

                    PARIS HILTON is coming to Finland tomorrow.

                    Btw, HS discussion rock -- they don't release often totally harmless posts, and edit those that they do release without any notice.

                    I started a discussion about "Yhdysvaltain kansainvälinen imago kirkastunut vähän"

                    i wrote

                    Elämme internet-aikaa

                    "http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pd fs/02_04_08_globalview.pdf

                    Olisikohan linkki itse tutkimukseen liikaa vaadittu?."

                    HS publishes

                    Elämme internet-aikaa

                    "http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pd fs/02_04_08_globalview.pdf

                    Linkki itse tutkimukseen. "
                    Last edited by Julian Delphiki; April 2, 2008, 06:42.

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                    • #25
                      YEp. It makes you think about the competence of these people. You've noticed it I'm sure, how the grammar is also a big problem for our writers these days. Just read any of the Iltalehti/Iltasanomat pieces, there's simply not a story without horrible language in it. Then there's just plain typos as well. It would be OK, but it's really not because there's nothing they can't do these days.

                      HS even used the "we let people decide what to think" when reporting these crap things. How about that statement? Could you be more wrong, are you a journalist, I mean jeesh.... you are still choosing what you report and what you do not report. Linden - no reporting. SMS messages, TONS of reporting. There's no free decision making here and it's simply insulting for someone to actually say that.
                      In da butt.
                      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                      "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                      • #26
                        Yle didn't even bother reporting that demonstration against censorship i heard.

                        I've noticed the writing thing, i'm quite good with written Finnish and IS/IL reporters are from lappeen Ranta. Obviously being able to write is not something that's required for a 'journ-analist' today.

                        I do watch comics almost daily from those TP journals since my local "cafeteria" has them, but can't really be arsed with stories anymore. They just make me angry .
                        Last edited by Julian Delphiki; April 2, 2008, 09:22.

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                        • #27
                          yeah, it's funny how they just make you mad reading them. Everything from spelling to how spesific words are chosen to the actual "issue".

                          There should be a credible and active media watch who actually take part in these things. Actively, who won't let themselves be marginalized like the EFF.
                          In da butt.
                          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                          • #28
                            HS didn't even publish my comment as modified version about

                            "Paris Hilton is expected to arrive in Finland Thursday"

                            I replied that i'm eagerly waiting with rotten eggs and tomatoes :/.

                            Edit, now they have added two almost similar comments.

                            Btw, i gave a quick look to people's comments published on paper HS about firing Kanerva -- not so surprisingly, it seems that especially older ppl didn't have any idea what this crap really was about (=nothing).

                            Spin it, spin it!


                            This seems almost sensible;

                            Uusi Suomi on ajattelevan, uteliaan ja osallistuvan lukijan päivittäinen uutislehti.


                            Quite a few posters seem to think that nominating Stubb is a pro-Nato conspiracy (not a reference to that discussion so much).

                            Uusi Suomi on ajattelevan, uteliaan ja osallistuvan lukijan päivittäinen uutislehti.


                            Myös Ilta-Sanomien vastaava päätoimittaja Tapio Sadeoja arvioi, että media selviytyi tapahtumien uutisoinnista varsin hyvin.
                            :we need vomit smiley very bad:

                            Media

                            Uusi Suomi on ajattelevan, uteliaan ja osallistuvan lukijan päivittäinen uutislehti.
                            Last edited by Julian Delphiki; April 2, 2008, 12:07.

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                            • #29
                              Its official now, i'm totally alienated from Finnish media and flower-hat society.

                              http://tinyurl.com/2dnqeh (HS. Halonen: Uudessa ajassa korostuu säällinen käyttäytyminen)

                              I thought we would have been going to opposite direction instead of getting 'moral' nitpicks (moral has nothing to do with, it's 'jeesustelua').

                              From Paris discussion:


                              "
                              "Näitkö Parisin kaupungilla? Lähetä kuvasi HS:lle."

                              Ehdotan tämän aviisin nimen muuttamista:
                              Helsingin Sanomat -> Hymy Sanomat"

                              Last edited by Julian Delphiki; April 3, 2008, 23:42.

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                              • #30
                                Yep. Can you have a better example of media serving its own interest and not about journalism anymore, at least not in here. It's really sad. After all, they are the ones letting people know what's happening.
                                In da butt.
                                "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                                THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                                "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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