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  • #46
    Originally posted by Zoid
    Of course not, but it will take some getting used to. It will have a profound effect on the human psyche imo. We are irrational beings (well, most of us... ) and therefore I think it will be hard to accept that something so wonderful and intricate as the universe has been created by random chance...
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    • #47
      Not sure why so many think Atheism is a religion, but considering BK agrees with you you should now realize you're wrong. I don't go to an atheist church, follow atheistic rituals, pray to the nothing of atheism, congregate with like-minded nonsouls and chant wunga wunga. I just say, "there are no gods", and get on with my day.

      And chaos is just order structured differently.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Zkribbler


        Atheism is a religion in which Nothing is sacred.

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        • #49
          Yawn. This whole argument is purely semantic, and silly. The worst part is, this topic lured Blake back into his "rant nonstop about Buddhism" mode. He was doing pretty good for a while there.
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          • #50
            So with this debate in mind, is science (or Physics) a religion?

            Black and white question. No maybe's or perhaps's (or bananas as this isn't a poll). Yes or no. Give reason.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Zkribbler


              Atheism is a religion in which Nothing is sacred.

              0 =


              No, Atheism is a belief that there are no dieties.

              It would seem so simple, Apolytoners can't grasp it.
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              • #52
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Donegeal
                  So with this debate in mind, is science (or Physics) a religion?

                  Black and white question. No maybe's or perhaps's (or bananas as this isn't a poll). Yes or no. Give reason.
                  No. But that doesn't stop there from being beliefs which are as central and important to science as the belief in God is to Christianity.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Zoid
                    I suppose I'm looking for reason in the universe because I can't find any reason for my own existence.
                    If you really want, you could meet up with your dad, ask him directly and he will let you know the reason.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by GePap




                      No, Atheism is a belief that there are no dieties.

                      It would seem so simple, Apolytoners can't grasp it.
                      I've not seen many arguments against that (that Atheism is anything except a belief that there is/are no god(s).)

                      However, many of us consider that (akin to) a religion (in that it is a specific belief, as opposed to not caring or having no opinion on the subject). There is no more evidence of the lack of god any more than there is evidence of God (and therefore it is a belief and not a fact).
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                      • #56
                        you could all just get drunk and let someone else worry about it
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                        • #57
                          Sandman should post his beekeeper story again.
                          THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                          AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                          AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                          DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by snoopy369


                            I've not seen many arguments against that (that Atheism is anything except a belief that there is/are no god(s).)

                            However, many of us consider that (akin to) a religion (in that it is a specific belief, as opposed to not caring or having no opinion on the subject). There is no more evidence of the lack of god any more than there is evidence of God (and therefore it is a belief and not a fact).
                            A religion makes claims about the nature of the universe and the basis for human morality, it creates rules about behavior towards others and the world around.

                            Judaism, Islam, and Christiniaty are all Monotheistic. Are they all the same faith? NO. They make different moral claims about the relations of man to each other and to the devine entity they claim to be the source of their moral scriptures.

                            As Theben already said, if I say: "there are no gods" and then give the issue no further thought, that is NOT a religion under any useful or sane definition.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Winston


                              If you really want, you could meet up with your dad, ask him directly and he will let you know the reason.
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                              • #60
                                Ah, found it.

                                Originally posted by Sandman
                                People who don't keep bees are still a kind of beekeeper. I mean, checking a filing cabinet or taking the casing off a PC is basically the same as checking the hives.

                                Just as beekeepers sell their honey, so non-beekeepers sell things which aren't honey, thus proving they are, in fact, beekeepers.
                                THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                                AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                                AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                                DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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