McCain's wrapped up the GOP nomination...

[Whoha]

He'll have the dead vote sewn up for certain.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Whoha
He'll have the dead vote sewn up for certain.

Not really; they almost always vote Democrat.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Seeings how Levin is a super delegate who has come out for Hillary ...

Link?

[Dinner]

Obama wins the Wyoming primary.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7284881.stm

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Link?

I might have been thinking of Sander Levin who I believe is Carl Levin's son and a Congressman from Michigan.

http://www.bloggingformichigan.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1375

Sander Levin is a super delegate who has endorsed Hillary.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-endorsement-notes.html

It seems most of the Michigan Democrats in Congress except Carl Levin have already endorsed Hillary, including the other person quoted in your article, though I'd be surprised if Carl Levin wasn't also a supporter.

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=213&sid=1340521

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Unrelated question, but one I've been wondering about: What happens if McCain croaks between now and the nominating convention?

His delegates remain, but are released to vote their own way. Essentially it becomes a brokered convention at that point.

[Dinner]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/6/162543/9018/234/451324

For what it is worth Dailykos lists Carl Levin as a likely Hillary supporter since he usually endorses the primary winner and has a history of working with the Clintons.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Not really; they almost always vote Democrat.

They'll have some trouble telling the difference this time, being the walking dead and all.

[Elok]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Both states have offered to hold caucuses since caucuses cost a tiny fraction of a general election but Hillary has been oh so whiny about not wanting a caucus. She seems to have figured out she loses caucuses so now she's dug her heels in and insists people just give her her ill gotten gains. But that just isn't right. Either everyone abides by the agreed upon rules or the states get to decide how they want to allocate their delegate (as the constitution dictates they should). Sucks for Hillary but Michigan and Florida will no doubt go the cheap route and opt for caucuses instead of general votes.

Lesson to learn is don't cheat, follow the rules, and you don't end up like this.

Dunno if this was brought up in this thread already, but the Economist said the reason she loses caucuses is that they're typically held over a small fraction of a day instead of the whole thing, so only dedicated followers with flexible schedules can get there to vote. Her supporters are largely working-class, Obama's more upper-class, so she can't compete. I can hardly blame her for whining.

[snoopy369]

I don't know that that would be true. Most caucuses that i've seen are held in the evening, 5pm-8pm... admittedly I'm not sure about all of them, but 5pm-8pm should include everyone who's not a retail employee pretty much, except the relatively small proportion of people who might be asked to work late. That actually could help Clinton, because the 'wealthier' supporters are lawyers and similar, and tend to work late more often I'd think...

There's certainly a possibility of what you say, but I think it's equally possible it works the other way, or neutral.

[Ramo]

That is a factor for some caucuses, and that's a serious problem. But that argument doesn't apply to caucuses held on weekends, such as WY, or caucuses that allow absentee ballots, such as ME. In these cases, the ridiculous margins that Obama is able to build up are fairly strong proxies for the enthusiasm gap between the campaigns.

[Arrian]

IMO, Caucuses suck.

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by VetLegion

Diebold Accidentally Leaks Results Of 2008 Election Early

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I might have been ...

Is this a long winded way of saying you were wrong?

[DinoDoc]

Democrats' Quest For Mail-In Revote Hits Major Hurdle

By WILLIAM MARCH, The Tampa Tribune

Published: March 12, 2008

Updated: 11:58 pm

TAMPA - Florida's Democratic congressional delegation issued a joint statement Tuesday night opposing any revote in the state's presidential primary, throwing what appeared to be a major roadblock in front of the state party's efforts for a mail-in revote.

Earlier Tuesday, the state party appeared to be moving forward with a plan for a mail-in revote.

Florida Sen. Bill Nelson, who has advocated the idea, expected a copy of a proposed plan from state party officials Tuesday evening, a Nelson spokesman said.

The statement from the state's nine U.S. House members came after Nelson invited them to a meeting to answer their questions about the plan. "Our House delegation is opposed to a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind."

A Nelson spokesman said he couldn't give a reaction Tuesday night without having seen the statement from the House members.

Earlier in the day, Democratic state Senate leader Steve Geller had said there will be a news conference Thursday, presumably to announce the plan. Democrats say they have to submit the plan this week to meet national party deadlines.

Geller also said he planned his own news conference today to disclose "some interesting information I've received that I'm not free to talk about now," about the revote. Party insiders said it was a poll showing about 60 percent of Florida Democrats favor a new vote, but those sources could not provide such details as question wording.

Florida Democratic Party spokesman Mark Bubriski said Tuesday night that the plan is a draft, and doesn't represent a final decision by the party on whether to pursue a mail-in revote.

He characterized the plan as "hypothetical" and said the state party executive committee, the party's main decision-making body, would have to vote on a final decision to propose it to the national party.

Supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton tend to favor a new vote. If the outcome were similar to the Jan. 29 primary, it would benefit the New York senator, who won handily but now trails Obama in the race for delegates to win the nomination.

Clinton backers are not unanimous, and Barack Obama backers, particularly blacks who see a chance to elect the nation's first black president, tend to oppose the idea.

"To me there's an appearance that a candidate is losing" - Clinton - "and now all of a sudden, we're going to have a new election," said former state Sen. Les Miller, a backer of the Illinois senator.

Current county party chairman Mike Steinberg predicted the Obama campaign would go to court to stop the plan. "They're not just going to take this sitting down," he said.

The DNC has said it won't seat a Florida delegation to the national convention based on the Jan. 29 primary - in effect not counting that vote - because it was held too early in violation of party rules.

To choose a delegation that can be seated, the state party must propose a plan for a new vote or caucus that meets DNC approval.