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Originally posted by villabarthanes
America. This is how you overthrow undemocratic goverments!
Europe
America. This is how you overthrow undemocratic goverments!
Europe
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Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila -
Europeans:
This is how you overthrow undemocratic governments when they actually fight back:
"The nation that controls magnesium controls the universe."
-Matt GroenigComment
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WW1 isn't a good example.
The Nazis were defeated mostly be Europeans, like the Brits and the Russians, and the resistance movements. The US was an important part, but not the only fighter against the Axis.
Cold War: By setting up almost equaly bad dictators?
Wait you are claiming credit for the Napoleonic wars too?
WTF?
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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You seem to be forgetting several things. 1) The war was against more than just the Germans. I think there was a skirmish or 2 in the Pacific against another undemocratic regime.Originally posted by Heraclitus
The Nazis were defeated mostly be Europeans, like the Brits and the Russians, and the resistance movements. The US was an important part, but not the only fighter against the Axis.
2) We did save 1/2 of Europe from an anti-democratic regime as a result of that war. and finally 3) He wasn't talking about the US only the fact that sometimes talking isn't enough
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Originally posted by Heraclitus
WW1 isn't a good example.
The Nazis were defeated mostly be Europeans, like the Brits and the Russians, and the resistance movements. The US was an important part, but not the only fighter against the Axis.
Cold War: By setting up almost equaly bad dictators?
Wait you are claiming credit for the Napoleonic wars too? WTF?
Please take your partisan blinders off. They are preventing you from seeing the truth.
I have taken credit for nothing. I do not speak for any people, race, or political party, I merely speak for myself as a student of history.
Someone in this thread merely introduced the foolish claim that this inanity in the Channel was an exemplar for removing an undemocratic regime. I am stating that it is not, in fact, a useful model. It doesn't matter "who" gets "credit". However much I may honor the victories, I certainly deserve no credit personally for the role the United States played in defeating Nazi tyranny or Soviet Socialist Imperialism.
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 get credit for the defeat of Napoleon?
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 get credit for the defeat of Hitler?
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 even get credit for the defeat of Serbia in the '90s?
My instincts are: probably not, unless he has an exceptionally long life or volunteered to fight in someone else's war."The nation that controls magnesium controls the universe."
-Matt GroenigComment
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The statement wasn't serious dude, It was just a stab at how the US gets to choose which countries need democracy. While the EU is criticised for enforcing its will on a little island. And it isn't even the bloddy EU that is doing the enforcing!Originally posted by jkp1187
Please take your partisan blinders off. They are preventing you from seeing the truth.
I have taken credit for nothing. I do not speak for any people, race, or political party, I merely speak for myself as a student of history.
Someone in this thread merely introduced the foolish claim that this inanity in the Channel was an exemplar for removing an undemocratic regime. I am stating that it is not, in fact, a useful model. It doesn't matter "who" gets "credit". However much I may honor the victories, I certainly deserve no credit personally for the role the United States played in defeating Nazi tyranny or Soviet Socialist Imperialism.
fixed.Originally posted by jkp1187
Does a American national in 2008 get credit for the defeat of Napoleon?
First off, I don't rember mentioning Slovenia.Originally posted by jkp1187
Please take your partisan blinders off. They are preventing you from seeing the truth.
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 get credit for the defeat of Napoleon?
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 get credit for the defeat of Hitler?
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 even get credit for the defeat of Serbia in the '90s? So ehh isn't it fair to point out that yo uare wearing them too?
Yes a whole bunch of them infact.Originally posted by jkp1187
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 get credit for the defeat of Hitler?
My instincts are: probably not, unless he has an exceptionally long life or volunteered to fight in someone else's war.
The Serbs could have caused major crap in Slovenia if they wanted too. They went after 10 days because we promised them we wouldn't arm ourselves.Originally posted by jkp1187
Does a Slovenian national in 2008 even get credit for the defeat of Serbia in the '90s?
Does any US national in 2008 even get credit for stoping the Ruandan genocide or solving the Darfur crisis?Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Cold War as a whole is however quite problematic here since the USSR didn't break down only beccause of a clear cut military defeat. The War in Afghanistan surely played a role, but so did other factors, overall that's imo not the same category as both WWs or Nappy's defeat(s). Several other countries of the eastern bloc didn't do much "fighting back" overall to stop the end.BlahComment
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Then there's no reason to take anything you said in this thread seriously. Adios.Originally posted by Heraclitus
The statement wasn't serious dude, It was just a stab at how the US gets to choose which countries need democracy. While the EU is criticised for enforcing its will on a little island. And it isn't even the bloddy EU that is doing the enforcing!
"The nation that controls magnesium controls the universe."
-Matt GroenigComment
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Is having a free and fair referendum on whether or not to reject democracy an example of irony?
In a recent poll, only 56% of Sarkese backed democracy.
And is the Beeb being tongue in cheek or is it accidentally funny:
On Jan. 13, however, British Lord Chancellor Jack Straw sent a letter to Sark demanding it move to full democracy, calling the proposed compromise inconsistent with "modern democratic principles." Sark is a dependent of the English monarchy, and its laws require approval by the British government.
One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Are you serious?Originally posted by jkp1187
Someone in this thread merely introduced the foolish claim that this inanity in the Channel was an exemplar for removing an undemocratic regime. I am stating that it is not, in fact, a useful model. It doesn't matter "who" gets "credit". However much I may honor the victories, I certainly deserve no credit personally for the role the United States played in defeating Nazi tyranny or Soviet Socialist Imperialism.
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I can't make up my mind who the democratic side was in the Napoleonic Wars.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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When will the EU eliminate the totalitarian dictatorship of Sealand?Comment
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FranceOriginally posted by Colon™
I can't make up my mind who the democratic side was in the Napoleonic Wars.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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France...until Nappy crown himself emperor. (Big mistakeOriginally posted by Colon™
I can't make up my mind who the democratic side was in the Napoleonic Wars.
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Who got left out? There are only 29 people on the island in the first placeGoverning body, the Chief Pleas, has approved new reform laws which will lead to the introduction of a 28-member elected chamber.
Speaking of Erith:
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