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i would hate to start a game on a island that small
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I thought the Channel islands were owned by the UK? Is the UK letting the EU dictate government policies to it?
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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The UK agreed to do so as part of a treaty.Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I thought the Channel islands were owned by the UK? Is the UK letting the EU dictate government policies to it?
“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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No. They're part of the Crown but not part of the UK.Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I thought the Channel islands were owned by the UK? Is the UK letting the EU dictate government policies to it?
Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard DawkinsComment
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EU Opressors
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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EU? Moar liek EPoo!Comment
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I think Sarko has figured out that now that he's President he can grab women's tits without them objecting. I doubt he'd be marrying a former super model either if he wasn't President.Originally posted by LordShiva
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Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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It does dosen't it?Originally posted by Sandman
It looks like the world map from an RPG.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
EU Opressors
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I thought the Channel islands were owned by the UK? Is the UK letting the EU dictate government policies to it?
at above considering what Colon said.
Originally posted by Colon�
The ECHR isn't the EU. It has never been the EU. If the UK doesn't like its implications it shouldn't have been a co-founder of the Council of Europe.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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It's good to be the KingOriginally posted by Oerdin
I think Sarko has figured out that now that he's President he can grab women's tits without them objecting. I doubt he'd be marrying a former super model either if he wasn't President."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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European Court of Human Rights = Council of EuropeThursday, Jan. 17, 2008
A Revolution Not Televised
By Eben Harrell
No monarchs were beheaded, but the upheaval on the tiny, weather-beaten English Channel island of Sark was nothing short of revolutionary. For 400 years, the 600-strong community, which has no paved roads, cars or streetlights, has remained Europe's last bastion of feudalism. A powerful overlord appointed the island's judiciary and gave his consent for each meeting of the government, a 52-seat parliament called the Chief Pleas, in which a majority of the seats was reserved for landowners.
That changed on Jan. 16, when the Chief Pleas passed a law mandating universal suffrage and ending the practice of reserving seats for the landed gentry. It also agreed to limit the role of the island's master, known in Sark's French-English patois as the Seigneur, and to make its constitution a democracy.
A historic event, perhaps, but not exactly 1789 all over again. What motivated the Chief Pleas was not the islanders' democratic fervor, but pressure from the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. After protracted debate, Sark decided last year to add more elected seats to the legislature, but insisted that a certain number would still be reserved for landowners. In a recent poll, only 56% of Sarkese backed democracy.
On Jan. 13, however, British Lord Chancellor Jack Straw sent a letter to Sark demanding it move to full democracy, calling the proposed compromise inconsistent with "modern democratic principles." Sark is a dependent of the English monarchy, and its laws require approval by the British government.
The primary force for change has been reclusive billionaire twins, Sir Frederick and Sir David Barclay, who live in a castle on a private island within Sark's territorial waters. The brothers, who own London's Ritz hotel and the Daily Telegraph newspaper, have used the European Court of Human Rights to help overturn a local inheritance law requiring property to be left only to the oldest male heir and also the "treizième tax," which dedicated one-thirteenth of the sale price of property to the Seigneur.
The Barclays, through their lawyer Gordon Dawes, told TIME that their ultimate goal is democratic reform on Sark, but the pair is also in open conflict with the Seigneur, 80-year-old Michael Beaumont, whom Dawes calls a "dictator ruling through deference." Beaumont supports full democracy and has called for his powers to be diminished, but the Chief Pleas has resisted. The Seigneur remains a popular figure, whose family has governed the island since 1852.
The Barclays, meanwhile, have recently bought up as much as a fifth of the island, including three of its six hotels, raising fears in the tourism-reliant community that the pair are becoming overlords themselves.
Supporters of the status quo insist their system is fundamentally fair. "There are many places where the European Court of Human Rights and the United Nations could focus on promoting democracy rather than this small community that has not committed war or persecution, and has lived happily on its own for hundreds of years without any trouble," says Reginald Guille, the Chief Pleas' speaker of the house.
To portray Sark as a rural idyll untouched by modernity would be inaccurate, however. In the 1990s, British newspapers reported that up to 40% of Sark's inhabitants held directorships of companies. In a scheme dubbed the "Sark Lark", many residents sold their names or addresses to companies eager to take advantage of Sark's zero taxes and regulation-free environment. Sark is now regulated by a financial-services authority based on the nearby island of Guernsey.
"All I can say is that we do things differently," says landowner and Chief Pleas member Elisabeth Perrée, explaining why she opposes full democracy.
Clearly, she is not alone in her lack of enthusiasm. After its historic vote, the Chief Pleas did nothing to celebrate. It simply moved on to the next item on its agenda: Should electric bicycles be allowed on the island?
I'd say the Barclay brothers are to blame for going to court.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Ah, Europe. Always out in front, taking the tough stands.
Oh -- how's that embargo against the TRNC working out?"The nation that controls magnesium controls the universe."
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America. This is how you overthrow undemocratic goverments!
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