Primary Thread IV: Texas Black Gold or Pennsylvania Coal for Clinton?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Darius871


You know for someone who purports to hate talk radio pundits so much, you seem to know an awful lot about what they have to say.

I drive a lot for my job. Little to do but listen to the radio. Besides I like to listen to the lies if for no other reason then so I can expose them.

[Edan]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Serious questions:

No, they're not serious questions. You're trolling, and you know it.

[DinoDoc]

Why is it that people refuse to answer seemingly simple questions?

[Ramo]

I already answered your idiotic questions....

And yet someone who pushes for the idea that he'll take public funding (if his opponent does) as one of his attempts to reduce the "corrupting influence of money" on politics is not going to be harmed by renegging on the pledge? Especially when said person is running as a "reformer"?

And AFAIK, McCain has broken no laws to date.

Obama can make the argument that with his million donors with an average contribution of ~$100, no PAC money or contributions from federal lobbyists, and so doesn't need to rely on the broken gov't program with 527 loopholes to have a publicly financed campaign (and his "plege" was rather loose - his spokesman said that he'd "aggressively pursue" public financing). At best, even if he didn't break the law (which, as I pointed out in the other thread, is very unlikely), McCain can say that he tried to break the spirit of the law and defraud the American taxpayer.

Trying to say that there's some kind of equivalence between the two issues is completely absurd.

As for running as a "reformer," are you trying to seriously trying to suggest that hasn't been McCain's persona for the past several years?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ramo
I already answered your idiotic questions....

That doesn't really answer why Barack Hussein Obama has now been declared He who must not be named by the rest of the political field? It isn't as if teh 1st and last names are John and Smith so I fail to see how adding the complete name will make him suddenly sound foreign and unamarican.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Obama can make the argument that with his million donors with an average contribution of ~$100, no PAC money or contributions from federal lobbyists, and so doesn't need to rely on the broken gov't program with 527 loopholes to have a publicly financed campaign

Ah... the smell of equivocating in the morning.

[Ramo]

Do you realize how offensive you're being when you're asking why insinuating that your political opponents are Muslim is bad form?

[Ramo]

Ah... the smell of equivocating in the morning.

That's the argument that he'd make - that his campaign is de-facto publicly fiancanced, and it's a compelling one. It was dumb to make that statement initially, but he can very easily back out of it. The same certainly cannot be said for McCain's predicaments. As I was saying, there's absolutely no comparison between the two situations.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Serious questions:
1) Is it his name?
2) Is he ashamed of it?
3) Are his supporters ashamed of it?
4) If the answers to those are what I suspect, what's the problem with it?

You are not this stupid. Just in case I've misjudged you, however:

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) No.
4) Idiots.

Having said that, I suspect the only people likely to say "OMG! He's a traitormuslim, I won't vote for him!" wouldn't vote for him anyway. Still, given the slim margins of Presidential votes recently, it's a concern.

-Arrian

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ramo
Do you realize how offensive you're being when you're asking why insinuating that your political opponents are Muslim is bad form?

You're conflating the act of saying his name which is all Cunningham did in addition to calling him IIRC a hack, Chicago style politician and all of which are racially neutral with a lame attack by the TN GOP. The two actions (saying his name and the press release) are different and deserved to be considered as such.

Personally if I were to be inclined to call into question Barack Hussein Obama's judgement, I'd probably find it more useful to raise questions about his friendly relationship with William Ayers and Antoin "Tony" Rezko.

[MOBIUS]

Hasn't the stupid b!tch given up yet...

[Ramo]

You're conflating the act of saying his name which is all Cunningham did in addition to calling him IIRC a hack, Chicago style politician and all of which are racially neutral with a lame attack by the TN GOP. The two actions (saying his name and the press release) are different and deserved to be considered as such.

Cunningham repeatedly calling him "Hussein" - a name Obama doesn't use to call himself - in the context of the political attacks against him by the far right (the Madrassa smear, etc.) constitutes an insinuation that Obama's Muslim. And the suggestion that this isn't bad form is really goddamn offensive. Seriously dude, you ought to be ashamed.

[MOBIUS]

You’re assuming that Dino actually understands what shame is in the first place.

We have vast amounts of evidence built up over the years here on Poly to indicate that he does not.

[DinoDoc]

I've missed you, Moby. My other groupies pale in comparison to you.

[MOBIUS]

Just taking a leaf out of your own book...

Matthew Norman: The only tears for Hillary are her own

Couldn't have summed it up better myself - here is a person about whom I was fairly neutral about, who has expertly managed to turn my own opinion about her into pure and utter loathing with her campaign...