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    Lawyers for Omar Khadr called on U.S. authorities Monday to dismiss a murder charge against the Canadian, saying a newly revealed eyewitness account that had been covered up by the Pentagon casts doubt on the official version of events.

    Khadr, now 21, is charged with hurling a grenade that killed American Sgt. Christopher Speer during a firefight in Afghanistan in 2002. He's been in custody at a U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, since then.

    According to the original U.S. military version of events, Khadr ambushed American soldiers with a grenade following a four-hour fight at a mud compound in Afghanistan.

    Pentagon officials later backtracked slightly after it was revealed nobody witnessed Khadr throw the grenade. Pentagon officials said an eyewitness wasn't needed, because Khadr was the only al-Qaeda fighter left alive and the only person who could have thrown the grenade.

    However, a classified document, inadvertently released to reporters at the military prison by a Pentagon official Monday, provides a different eyewitness account of the events.


    A U.S. soldier at the battle said in sworn testimony that two al-Qaeda fighters were alive after the fatal grenade attack.

    The unidentified soldier says he killed the first al-Qaeda fighter before spotting Khadr, whom he said was wounded, on his knees and facing away from him. For reasons he does not go into, he says he shot him in the back twice.

    The Pentagon says American soldiers fired on Khadr in self-defence after he tried to attack them.

    Khadr's military lawyer Lt.-Cmdr. Bill Kuebler suggests that the U.S. military may have been involved in a coverup.

    "The U.S. government had a problem on its hands when it found that it had a 15-year-old Canadian on its hands with two gaping bullet holes in his back that had been facing away from the fight," said Kuebler.

    Kuebler hopes the eyewitness account introduces enough reasonable doubt that Judge Peter Brownback will have to dismiss the murder charge against Khadr.




    Lies and a botched coverup.
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  • #2
    What?!

    Khadr, now 21, is charged with hurling a grenade....

    And

    The unidentified soldier says he killed the first al-Qaeda fighter before spotting Khadr, whom he said was wounded, on his knees and facing away from him. For reasons he does not go into, he says he shot him in the back twice.


    Is Kahdr alive or not? How did he miss?!

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    • #3
      /me sighs.
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      • #4
        He is alive, having survived being shot in the back.
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        • #5
          It was easy for the US to say Khadr threw the grenade when he was the only combatant. They chose to coverup the fact this was not true. This raises reasonable doubt and that just won't do in front of the kangaroo court.
          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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          • #6
            Just out of curiosity, what the hell was a fifteen-year-old Canadian boy doing in Afghanistan?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by snoopy369
              He is alive, having survived being shot in the back.
              How the **** do you miss killing a guy thats already wounded, on his knees and his back is facing you?

              Thats just not right.


              Spec.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Elok
                Just out of curiosity, what the hell was a fifteen-year-old Canadian boy doing in Afghanistan?
                Adventure vacation
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Elok
                  Just out of curiosity, what the hell was a fifteen-year-old Canadian boy doing in Afghanistan?
                  He was with some of his twisted family. Friends of Bin Laden.

                  He actually had more right to be there than the US soldiers yet one of the wounded marines is suing the Khadr's for the injuries he suffered.
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                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #10
                    /me plays world's smallest violin
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      * DinoDoc plays world's smallest violin
                      I don't expect you to care about Khadr or his family but eventually you will need to realise your nation is a very long way from your stated ideals.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        * Dinodoc exchanges his violin for a fiddle*
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                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wezil
                          I don't expect you to care about Khadr or his family ...
                          You shouldn't. I'd have let the kid die or leave him to the Northern Alliance to do with as they will unless I had some reason to believe he had useful information. Same with the American we caught over there.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            How about the rest of my quote?
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #15
                              I don't see how the basis of the charge is a war crime. And if it is just a plain old murder, Afghanistan should have jurisdiction at least IMO. So I don't see why he's before a military court.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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