"Snotty-nose little brats"

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Xorbon


Since when is "chucklehead" a bad word?

Chuckle F-uck?


Go chuckle when you're f-ucking your bedmate, and tell me how that works out for you.

[Xorbon]

Thanks for the definition.

3 inches of snow?

The last time we had a foot of snow here, it was cleared in about 24 hours. But then, I guess the people in my city are spoiled.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Xorbon
Thanks for the definition.

3 inches of snow?

The last time we had a foot of snow here, it was cleared in about 24 hours. But then, I guess the people in my city are spoiled.

The semi-official policy in clearing snow in the DC area is just to let the sun melt it.

[lord of the mark]

you people are totally missing the point. I was talking to POTM, whom, unlike anyone else here is actually currently a student in an FCPS school. She herself said the snow thing was silly - kids think of a snow day as an entitlement (the kid who left the message has an almost perfect GPA, and probably wanted time to study for a test) and as she pointed out, its really about safety, and if the officials thought movement of school buses was safe, they had the right to make that decision.

What the kids are upset about is the language used - snot nosed brats - POTMs years at FCPS, in particular the years BEFORE she was at TJ, convinced her that FCPS officials consider ALL the students snot nosed brats, to be shuffled along en masse. The anger, she says, was because it fit what kids have already come to expect from the admin. Theres even a facebook group called "You cant spell "fascist oppression" without FCPS".

Im surprised Ozzy of all people hasnt picked up on this.

[Zkribbler]

..which would make some sense if the wife were a school official...which she ain't.

[Kuciwalker]

What the kids are upset about is the language used - snot nosed brats - POTMs years at FCPS, in particular the years BEFORE she was at TJ, convinced her that FCPS officials consider ALL the students snot nosed brats, to be shuffled along en masse. The anger, she says, was because it fit what kids have already come to expect from the admin. Theres even a facebook group called "You cant spell "fascist oppression" without FCPS".

I moved here in 7th grade, so I spent very little time outside of TJ and managed to avoid most of the fascism, thankfully.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
What the kids are upset about is the language used - snot nosed brats - POTMs years at FCPS, in particular the years BEFORE she was at TJ, convinced her that FCPS officials consider ALL the students snot nosed brats, to be shuffled along en masse. The anger, she says, was because it fit what kids have already come to expect from the admin. Theres even a facebook group called "You cant spell "fascist oppression" without FCPS".

Im surprised Ozzy of all people hasnt picked up on this.

And I'm surprised that you -- of all people -- don't have more to say about equating a bit of immature name calling, or even administrative callousness, with "facist oppression."

[Elok]

They're high school students. Everything is fascist oppression to them.

[Xorbon]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
you people are totally missing the point. ...

I thought the point was that the teenager went about issuing his complaint in the wrong way.

Whether or not it was actually safe to drive that day, or that the school officials in the area are "fascists", is secondary to the main point of the story.

The wife was wrong to call the student back and leave that nasty message. She should have just deleted it (the student's message). But then she isn't a public official.

By the way, is the original message left by the teen posted anywhere? Or a transcript at least? I'm just curious what he said to make the wife go off like that, or if he said anything bad at all.

[korn469]

Why is everybody so down on the teenager when the only recorded actions we have are from the "mature" non snot-nosed adult in this situation acting like a pompous little *****? Yes the kid may have acted like a snotty-nosed little brat, but I haven't seen any evidence on youtube showing that. I have heard the wife's voice mail on youtube though, so I have indisputable evidence that she acted hateful and immature.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by korn469
Why is everybody so down on the teenager ...

Because his actions betray the fact he's a whiner and no one likes a whiner.

[Alinestra Covelia]

The wife's involvement is also not entirely clear cut either.

She's not a public official in that she does not occupy the public office; her husband does. But a long line of First Amendment cases starting with the famous NYTimes v. Sullivan has held that the family of a public official also has the reduced expectation of privacy. (By presenting yourself for public office, you enter yourself and to a lesser extent your immediate family into the public discussion forum.)

In this case we'd need to know more facts, obviously. But the fact that the school official did actually live at the phone number would weigh towards the phone call being not particularly invasive.

If I call a listed phone number for President Bush at the White House, and my purpose is to tell him that I strongly disapprove of his (say) war policies, the fact that Laura Bush (who is not technically a public official) answers the phone does not automatically make my phone call an intrusion of privacy.

If they have a private residence in Crawford, Texas, with an unlisted phone number and I squirrel that phone number up and call them in the middle of the night to taunt them, then sure that's more likely to be an invasion of privacy.

With so many unknown factors in this particular case it's kind of gratifying (if not slightly unsettling) to see the Polyton OTers drawing such confident conclusions.

[Xorbon]

What's "legal" and what's "common courtesy" often don't match. This would be a case where it may have been legal for the guy to call, but it's not exactly polite to call someone at his home when he could have easily called the office. The point being that the teen had an alternative, and he chose the more intrusive of the two. It's not like his call was an an emergency or something.

And no, we don't have all the information. The student could have been very civil in the message he left, or he may have been a total jackass. We don't know. All we know is that wifey was quite agitated and annoyed when she left her message.

[chequita guevara]

I am not at all surprised at three inches of snow being considered bad enough for a snow day. We're not talking the northern Midwest. I knew people from Louisville, KY that told me half an inch would shut down the city. It's what you learn to drive in. Here in Miami, if it rains, people go about 20 miles an hour. Given they can't drive when it's dry, I guess it's just as well.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
you people are totally missing the point. I was talking to POTM, whom, unlike anyone else here is actually currently a student in an FCPS school. She herself said the snow thing was silly - kids think of a snow day as an entitlement (the kid who left the message has an almost perfect GPA, and probably wanted time to study for a test) and as she pointed out, its really about safety, and if the officials thought movement of school buses was safe, they had the right to make that decision.

What the kids are upset about is the language used - snot nosed brats - POTMs years at FCPS, in particular the years BEFORE she was at TJ, convinced her that FCPS officials consider ALL the students snot nosed brats, to be shuffled along en masse. The anger, she says, was because it fit what kids have already come to expect from the admin. Theres even a facebook group called "You cant spell "fascist oppression" without FCPS".

Im surprised Ozzy of all people hasnt picked up on this.

And yet, I didn't feel oppressed a bit when I went through FCPS. Granted, maybe it was because I also went through San Francisco Public Schools and I know there's a whopper of a difference between the two in quality and I was thankful for what I got at Robinson Secondary school.

So, it sure sounds like entitlement to me!