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  • #16
    Naw, you just did less impossible stuff.
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    • #17
      What's the point of this thread? The methods expalined in the video are alright, not all equally simple but still effective. You might argue the simplest method (the first one explained in the video) is best for a kid, but showing kids that maths work in different ways can only be good for their understanding of the matter.

      Excessive calculator use is a general phenomenon in our societies, since it's easier than doing the math in your head. Congrats to aneeshm for the conscious decision to do without one, as would I, but I don't see the problem really.

      Maybe I'm just missing the wood for the trees, but I find it more likely aneesh is just trying to put minor issues into big cultural pictures. Again. I'm afraid I need to know more about Hindu civilization etc pp...

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      • #18
        In High school I was allowed to use a slide rule in physics. Nothing in any mathmatics class. A slide rule would do more than a calculator back then anyway. hehe...yep, I'm old
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        • #19
          Re: Re: Re: I am at a loss for words

          Originally posted by aneeshm


          Yes.

          And damn proud of it!



          Hah!

          We learnt how to do all that impossible stuff in our heads, because we had to (the IIT-JEE and the AIEEE demand it - you aren't given enough space on the paper to even write out the logarithms).
          Are you studying at the IIT?

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          • #20
            Knowing the algorithms is important, but if accuracy is king(such as at a job), just use a machine to do it.

            and yea, those other methods are retarded, and won't scale to larger problems.

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            • #21
              I don't think that there are serious scalability problems about method, but the chance for errors are high - they aren't exactly KISS.
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              • #22
                The long division method they first showed won't really scale.

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                • #23
                  I got bored after not too long, so I won't comment on the entire video.

                  The usual algorithm that she first explained should be taught to everyone, period.

                  The "cluster" thing is something that's useful for calculations in your head, and I've been doing it for a long time, although I've never been taught it or heard it called the "cluster method" before today.

                  Obviously, with problems like 998*1350, there's a shortcut to use, and you should take it. But I don't believe that sort of shortcut is an efficient method for all multiplication problems, and it shouldn't be treated as such.
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                  • #24
                    Sinbad does a great bit where's he's buying lunch at McDonald's for $4.95 when the power goes out. Without the register, the cashier can't figure out change for a $5. He calls a manager over, who also can't figure it out. Finally, the cashier raises his hands in defeat, backs away from the register and say, "Just reach in and that what you think you have coming."

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                    • #25
                      Be reasonable, how many 8 hour long math tests have you had to take where even one mistake failed you?

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                      • #26
                        I'm sorry for your loss
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                        • #27
                          When did aneeshm get any training in teaching kids math?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Whoha
                            The long division method they first showed won't really scale.
                            No algorithm easily performed by a human scales well. That's why we have computers.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Zkribbler
                              Sinbad does a great bit where's he's buying lunch at McDonald's for $4.95 when the power goes out. Without the register, the cashier can't figure out change for a $5. He calls a manager over, who also can't figure it out. Finally, the cashier raises his hands in defeat, backs away from the register and say, "Just reach in and that what you think you have coming."
                              That actually happened to me once, at a Burger King in Pittsburgh. They were using a computerized cash register -- one that didn't even have numbers, just pictures of the food -- and it crashed. Nobody but the manager seemed to have a clue as to how you would add the various prices together, add on an additional 7% sales tax, and then subtract the total from the 10 I was holding.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                                No algorithm easily performed by a human scales well. That's why we have computers.
                                which is why I advocate their use. but that one was just horrible.

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