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    I got the book Neoconservativism by Irving Kristol, I just started reading it and me and that guy are on the same wavelength immediately.

    His article about fathers (one of the first ones) is spot on. Just recently I got a DVD with "Heroes", an OK series that doesn't air here. I started watching it and I was immediately repulsed by the behaviour of the father guy towards his cute cheerleader daughter. I swear, in one episode he kissed her at least three times, and he's been kissing her in every episode since.

    I mean she's definitely kissable (I'd grab her ass while I'm at it) but FFS, I thought, that isn't what fathers do! At least as far as I know. Do they do it in America?

    So I liked it that some guy back in the sixties thought the same. And he also offers an analysis. Here's the gist: after a period of despising families the Left and their Hollywood exponents rethought it and families are cool again, but this time with a twist: they're based on love, and this love is a sovereign decision by each individual in the family, which makes family something of a voluntary union. Which is nonsense. I agree.

    BTW I've only read a fifth of the book, but I know already where I'm going to disagree. Foreign policy. It's the reason I got the book. I want to make sense of American foreign policy which is currently shaped by neoconservatives, and doesn't seem to make sense at all.

    Here is the cheerleader:



    And here is her "father", the creep:


  • #2
    they do it when they aren't related and it is just a show.

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    • #3
      And different cultures express themselves differently. Bleh
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      • #4
        There's an "If you had a cheerleader daughter that looked like that..." joke in there somewhere. Anyone care to tell it?

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        • #5
          And different families are differently affectionate, and different people are even within families. My daughter's on her way to college, and I still kiss her at least twice a day (goodbye in the morning, and goodnight); we also hug a lot. But my dad certainly wasn't that way with my sister.
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          • #6
            Her face is weird
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            • #7
              making sense of US foreign policy???

              well it must be deadly boring in Croatia this winter

              there is nothing mysterious about it... it is there to make money for those who put presidents into the oval office... pretty straight deal i'd think for those who have $$$ to invest into politicians. Best return on investment I heard (not only there either)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by LotC
                There's an "If you had a cheerleader daughter that looked like that..." joke in there somewhere. Anyone care to tell it?
                She doesn't look that special. Simply run of the mill make-up and photoshop and whatnot
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                • #9
                  I think that might actually be a bad photo. She was mentioned on somethingawful a while back (they were castigating Harry Knowles for slobbering over her) and the pic they used looked pretty hot.
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                  • #10
                    Do not disparage Mr. Bennett. He's the kind of hero I like best - the kind that absolutely does not give up, and always gets the job done. So what if he kisses his super hot daughter.
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                    • #11
                      IRL she is dating that loser emo brother Peter.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LordShiva
                        Her face is weird
                        Are we looking at the same face?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Neoconservativism

                          Originally posted by VetLegion
                          Do they do it in America?
                          at that age... no.

                          a bunch of the kids i babysit kiss their parents on the lips, but they're all under 10.

                          my father kisses us on the head during the sign of peace during mass, but other than that no.

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                          • #14
                            Well in Heroes, IIRC, he's kissing her on the head. No kissing on the lips, as far as I can remember. And I don't think its uncommon at all.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              oh i've never watched it. well that is ok then.

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