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  • #61
    And interesting = bad for you if you're there.

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #62
      I have a bookshelf next to me with most, if not all, of Shakespeare's plays contained within.

      I think I could do alright as a plagiarist.
      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Arrian
        And interesting = bad for you if you're there.

        -Arrian
        given the choice of being a cultural Russian, with at least some knowledge of later Russian Orthodoxy, trying to come up with a creative tale for a group of monks who are kind of into mystical, miracle oriented stuff, and who have nice toasty cabins, icons, axes, and the like, versus trying to explain myself to the head of the nearest Powhatan village, and Im not sure theres really even anything that you could call a "village" within 30 miles of here, I still think survival chances in Russia are a lot better.
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Igloodude


          Funny, I thought it was just one of the first known instances of a clever marketing campaign.
          It was a clever marketing campaign, but it was also considerably warmer back then so he had some basis for his marketing...
          I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Zoid


            It was a clever marketing campaign, but it was also considerably warmer back then so he had some basis for his marketing...
            Why do you hate global warming theories?
            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Vesayen


              Depending on where you are in Europe and this is VERY varied region to region, you might not be burned alive. Heretical burnings took a nosedove in *SOME*, note some, is the key word, not "most" or "much" of europe after the black death.
              Thanks Vesayen, I'm historian, you know?

              Anyway, my region was top notch, at least when it comes to early modern witch hunts, I don't know about late 14th cent. though.
              And I'm not talking about heresy, I'm talking about popping up out of nowhere with much really really weird stuff. I'm sure they'd make an exception for me.

              If you could swing it right, a very accurate world map would be of ENORMOUS value. People were spending the equivilent of billions today just trying to map Africas west coast, you know how much an accurate world map is worth?
              Then again, I'd have make a journey at least to Venice, and from there to Portugal in order to have a real advantage from my maps.
              "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
              "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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              • #67
                It's not a theory. It's fact.
                I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                • #68
                  I'd have most everything I own including my car. Yes I know there would only be 50' of roads but the engine could be useful and the tech could amaze some natives.
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #69
                    And do you have a refinery handy too?
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #70
                      He could always use primitive biofuels. stuff corn in, make it run
                      -->Visit CGN!
                      -->"Production! More Production! Production creates Wealth! Production creates more Jobs!"-Wendell Willkie -1944

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                      • #71
                        I'd have a whole house filled with stuff, my wife and my landlords even. But most importantly, I'd have my car (4-wheel even, for driving offroad) and fuel for about 400 km in it. It would ease the God thing tremendously, and even make sure that I survive, should it fail.

                        EDIT: On a second thought... I'd be in catholic Bavaria... so no God or I'd burn.
                        Last edited by Harovan; December 20, 2007, 04:43.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                          And do you have a refinery handy too?
                          No, like most tech it would have a limited lifespan/use. I suspect I get get quite a few hours work from my full tank of fuel however.

                          Besides how far exactly would I need to actually move the car to freak out the natives?
                          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                            I'd have a whole house filled with stuff, my wife and my landlords even. But most importantly, I'd have my car (4-wheel even, for driving offroad) and fuel for about 400 km in it. It would ease the God thing tremendously, and even make sure that I survive, should it fail.

                            EDIT: On a second thought... I'd be in catholic Bavaria... so no God or I'd burn.
                            You'd need a new bumper sticker

                            "My other car is a chariot of the gods"

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                            • #74
                              What's up with all the religion stuff? So far we've seen at least three people wanting to convert the natives to Christianity, one to Judaism and one to Buddhism. Folks, get real. First, it's very unimaginative of you. Secondly, I bet that around 90% of all prophets who ever lived ended up killed. So the key to survival is to adapt to the natives, not vice versa.

                              From my position I could walk to the Italian city-states (probably the place to be in Europe in the period) within 6 months. Probably sooner.

                              Then I'd try to become the Pope. Not because I want to be one, but because I'd need plenty of resources to set up the internet. I'd start by connecting the monasteries. Oh the flamewars we would have! And some pretty wicked porn too I bet.

                              Ingredients for setting up the internet:

                              - wires (that's not very high tech, doable with the technology of the age)
                              - electricity (piece of cake when you have wires and magnets)
                              - a protocol (morse code FTW, or straight to binary? not sure)
                              - terminal devices (this is not trivial, but a good mechanical design can be made, say, with a matrix of wooden "pixels" which would be pushed up to represent characters, even the blind monks could use it!)

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                              • #75
                                Much higher then 90% actually. There is however a big difference between being a prophet and a missionary.

                                I think the Jewish religion has value, otherwise I would not practice it. I identify part of my person as being Jewish. I see there being Jews in the world, as a good thing. Jews in the Americas helps to ensure Jews in the future.

                                Being knowlegable about Judaism and Christian theology would also make them more resistant to later attempts at conversion, which were always accompanied by exploitation of the natives.

                                My first priority would be to integrate myself into native society but the religion could come later.

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