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  • #16
    DD, representing redneck values since 1980
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    • #17
      as info, Jewish court, (a bet din) will NOT grant a divorce to a couple consisting of a Jew and an (unconverted) gentile. Since, you know, to that court theyve never been married. AFAIK, most such couples are cool with not getting a Jewish divorce.


      Im befuddled exactly what the gay couple in RI actually expect to gain legally from a divorce (unless theres property in Massachusetts at issue) that they dont get by simply being unmarried.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by lord of the mark
        as info, Jewish court, (a bet din) will NOT grant a divorce to a couple consisting of a Jew and an (unconverted) gentile. Since, you know, to that court theyve never been married. AFAIK, most such couples are cool with not getting a Jewish divorce.
        Why do jews discriminate so openly?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          Why'd they get married to only divorce this quickly?
          3 years is enough time for folks to change, or to recognize things they didnt at first. Im not about to defend the contemporary divorce rate, but this wasnt like 6 months.

          Though Id suspect most hetero married couples who were offered what is effectively an annulment, wouldnt go fighting to get a divorce instead.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Asher

            Why do jews discriminate so openly?
            A jewish marriage involves pledging to be married according to "the laws of Moses and Israel" Someone who isnt bound by those laws (and gentiles are not), can't enter into such a marriage.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Arrian
              (DD).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                Go to Massachusetts.

                R.I. doesn't recognize their marriage anyway, so really, they could just live seperately and divide the assets through negotiation.... at least until R.I. recognizes gay marriages.
                I suppose there could be a problem, if say, partner A moves back to Mass later, but at that point partner B has changed their mind and doesnt want a divorce, in which case partner A has to file in Mass for a contested divorce (or whatever) which could involve some trouble and delay (lets say Partner A wants to marry again in Mass, and is waiting for the divorce decree to do so)
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                • #23
                  A bet din is a Jewish, religious court. They won't grant the divorce for the EXACT same reason the state govmt won't grant it-because they do not recognize them to begin with. It is a legal thing, you can't divorce sommeone if they were never married to begin with.


                  Virtually no one who marries a non Jew is going to go to a bet din to get a divorce anyway so the point is really moot.

                  Jews were at the heart of the civil rights movement and amoung the first whites to vocally support it, they are so racist and opressive :/ It still boggles the mind why black seem to people hate Jews, which is part stereotype but well, partly true.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Vesayen
                    It still boggles the mind why black seem to people hate Jews, which is part stereotype...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      3 years is enough time for folks to change, or to recognize things they didnt at first. Im not about to defend the contemporary divorce rate, but this wasnt like 6 months.
                      3 years is enough time for the case to wind its way through the RI court system. It might very well have been 6 months before they decided to file for divorce.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Vesayen
                        It is a legal thing, you can't divorce sommeone if they were never married to begin with.
                        cant have deevorce without being married? Damn them lawyers, first we thing we do, is .........
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Asher
                          DD, representing redneck values since 1980
                          Well definately not since the day I was born but what about my posts in this thread do you find worthy of what you consider a pejorative?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Vesayen
                            AIt still boggles the mind why black seem to people hate Jews, which is part stereotype but well, partly true.
                            Theyre still angry about "Porgy and Bess", obviously.
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                            • #29
                              Your holding of gay people to a standard that straight people demonstratively do not achieve.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ramo
                                Your holding of gay people to a standard that straight people demonstratively do not achieve.
                                I hate it when straight folks are demonstrative about their divorces. Its demonstrably annoying.

                                I do presume white gay folks arent still mad at us about Porgy and Bess, though.
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