Greatest Conquerors in History - Hurt or Heal

[Patroklos]

48 - Genghis Khan
6 - Napoleon Bonaparte
68- Alexander the Great

[Imran Siddiqui]

48 - Genghis Khan
8 - Napoleon Bonaparte
66- Alexander the Great

[Geronimo]

Napolean was utterly defeated. In what other ways did his prowess differ from Genghis and Alexander the great?

People are giving Napo double thumbs up and detracting from Alexander and Genghis why exactly?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Napoleon almost conquered the entirety of the European continent, even with most of it against him. I consider his conquests and his military innovations to be more impressive than Genghis or Alexander.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Napoleon almost conquered the entirety of the European continent, even with most of it against him. I consider his conquests and his military innovations to be more impressive than Genghis or Alexander.

You think it would have been easier to match Genghis or Alexander's achievements than Napoleons?

Napoleon almost conquered europe on behalf of the most powerful state in the world at the time.

Alexander made his conquests starting from the tiny backwater power base of Macedonia.

Genghis made his conquests starting from a yurt tent.

[Julian Delphiki]

It's just a matter of opinion; Hitler did pretty much the same thing, but it's not PC to appreciate him. And for my opinion, i simply cant decide between Alexander and Genghis.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hiter wasn't the commander really. Now if you wanted to speak of the greatness of Guderian, by all means.

As for opinion, yes it is . Alexander was in a great position as Phillip already had the pieces set up, IMO. And as for Genghis, aside from China, the rest of his conquests were sparsely populated areas. I mean, I think Ogedei Khan was just as great as a conquerer.

[Harovan]

50 Genghis Khan
6 Napoleon Bonaparte
66 Alexander the Great

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Hiter wasn't the commander really. Now if you wanted to speak of the greatness of Guderian, by all means.

As for opinion, yes it is . Alexander was in a great position as Phillip already had the pieces set up, IMO. And as for Genghis, aside from China, the rest of his conquests were sparsely populated areas. I mean, I think Ogedei Khan was just as great as a conquerer.

Central Asia was rich and urban...until the mongols fixed it.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Geronimo
Napoleon almost conquered europe on behalf of the most powerful state in the world at the time.

Alexander made his conquests starting from the tiny backwater power base of Macedonia.

Genghis made his conquests starting from a yurt tent.

QFT.

Genghis led a band of nomadic shepherds across the Asian continent. Napoleon had the industrial might of France behind him, and managed to catch frostbite.

[Julian Delphiki]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Hiter wasn't the commander really. Now if you wanted to speak of the greatness of Guderian, by all means.

As for opinion, yes it is . Alexander was in a great position as Phillip already had the pieces set up, IMO. And as for Genghis, aside from China, the rest of his conquests were sparsely populated areas. I mean, I think Ogedei Khan was just as great as a conquerer.

Still, AH was the guy saying what to do.. it's easy to see how opinions can differentiate; i've read my share of 3rd reichs history and about Alexander & Genghis as well. And to try to actually have a meaningful debate of this ..

Meaning, you could easily be right on Guderian thing.. and still, i'm not unfamiliar with him but could know more to make a real assessment about him.

[Will9]

Originally posted by LordShiva


QFT.

Genghis led a band of nomadic shepherds across the Asian continent. Napoleon had the industrial might of France behind him, and managed to catch frostbite.

When Ghengis Khan rode into the Jin Empire (his first conquest outside Mongolia), he had 50,000 men on horses. Far from nothing.

Napoleon took over a country which was just exiting termoil and had almost all of Europe against him. He proved to be undeafable by man and it was nature that weakened him to the point that he could be beat.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Will


When Ghengis Khan rode into the Jin Empire (his first conquest outside Mongolia), he had 50,000 men on horses. Far from nothing.

Napoleon took over a country which was just exiting termoil and had almost all of Europe against him. He proved to be undeafable by man and it was nature that weakened him to the point that he could be beat.

QFT

Post revolutionary France had just barley gone through serious turmoil and armed conflict just before Napoleon’s conquests.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Will


When Ghengis Khan rode into the Jin Empire (his first conquest outside Mongolia), he had 50,000 men on horses. Far from nothing.

Napoleon took over a country which was just exiting termoil and had almost all of Europe against him. He proved to be undeafable by man and it was nature that weakened him to the point that he could be beat.

Yes because we all know how vicious the winters around Saxony or Belgium can be!

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


QFT

Post revolutionary France had just barley gone through serious turmoil and armed conflict just before Napoleon’s conquests.

true. Serious turmoil and armed conflict were unknown to the mongols of Genghis day. Wealthy familys would send their children to grow up there away from all of the violence and turmoil that so afflicted the rest of the world.