I wonder if we can all shut up about health care in Alberta

[Asher]

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/281338

Top 5 and Bottom 5 hospitals in Canada, measured in Hospital standardized mortality ratio

Top Five

1. The Moncton Hospital

Moncton, N.B.: 56

2. Foothills Medical Centre

Calgary, Alta.: 61

3. Regina General Hospital

Regina, Sask.: 71

4. Peter Lougheed Centre

Calgary, Alta.: 73

5. Saint John Regional Hospital

Saint John, N.B.: 74




Bottom Five

1. Grand River Hospital

K.W. Health Centre, Kitchener, Ont: 142

2. Niagara Health System

St. Catharines General Site, St. Catharines, Ont.: 135

3. The Scarborough Hospital

General Site, Toronto, Ont.: 134

4. Burnaby Hospital

Burnaby, B.C.: 125

5. Red Deer Regional Hospital Centre

Red Deer, Alta.: 125

Both of Calgary's big hospitals are on there. That's not too shabby...

Waterloo -- WTF?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Why were people talking about the health care in Alberta at all?

[Asher]

It's a common thing out east to ***** about how Alberta, with its conservative government, has crap health care compared to the idyllic Ontario.

(Disclaimer: I've been unable to find a GP at all in Toronto)

[Wezil]

I survived the Grand River Hopital.

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Why were people talking about the health care in Alberta at all?

Why do people talk about health care in Canada at all?

It is not a system to be envied.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Depends on what you compare it to .

[Wezil]

Well we are like North Korea and Cuba wrt health care.

It's an exclusive club.

[Elok]

I didn't even know they had health care up there. I always figured they just chucked a wounded man in the marshes and let the beavers lick his sores.

[Kuciwalker]

[Riesstiu IV]

Originally posted by Elok
I didn't even know they had health care up there. I always figured they just chucked a wounded man in the marshes and let the beavers lick his sores.

Even if he has an STD sore on his willy?

[Elok]

That'll teach him to scorn the rubber.

[Flubber]

Moderately interesting stats -- I wonder could the younger Calgary demographic have something to do with it (ie do they adjust at all for the age of the hospital population)?

When my wife worked intensive care (whether Alberta, Newfoundland or Texas) about half the beds in her unit were occupied by people who were going to die there. There is really only so much that can be done for the 90 year old in heart failure after all and such a death should not be seen as an indictment of a particular hospital or unit

[CrONoS]

Dying people should be used as stuntman in movie.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Flubber
Moderately interesting stats -- I wonder could the younger Calgary demographic have something to do with it (ie do they adjust at all for the age of the hospital population)?

K-W is #1 and that's a pretty young city...

When my wife worked intensive care (whether Alberta, Newfoundland or Texas) about half the beds in her unit were occupied by people who were going to die there. There is really only so much that can be done for the 90 year old in heart failure after all and such a death should not be seen as an indictment of a particular hospital or unit

Terminally ill people are not included in the study.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by CrONoS
Dying people should be used as stuntman in movie.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher

K-W is #1 and that's a pretty young city...


Terminally ill people are not included in the study.

The study might have accounted for ALL of the various factors that can account for differences in death rates in hospitals-- I don't know-- I didn't look at their methodology

I just know that a death may say nothing at all about the quality of care-- Heck a top-flight hospital might even have a higher incidence of death if it employs some some top-flight specialists that use cutting edge procdures to attempt to save patients ( and give a chance to people that would otherwise be doomed)