"Russia will soon be a one party state"

[Myrddin]

Originally posted by Serb




You can bullsh!t yourself, you can bullsh!t other foreigners, but dot bullsh!t me.

I remember 1996. I voted in 1996 and you can't even imagine what kind of election campaign it was. It was a total control of the media TOTAL, ABSOLUTE CONTROL over EVERYTHING. It was a zombification : "vote for Eltsin or you'll lose, vote for Eltsin or you'll lose, vote for Eltsin or you'll lose, vote for Eltsin or you'll lose, etc. The opposition simply had no chance to say a single word. Furthermore, all TV channels, papers, radi stations etc, constantly bombarded the opposition with BS charges.

the presidential elections of 1996 was the most unfair, dirty and undemocratic campaign ever.

Putin's control over media is non-existent and is really nothing in comarison to what had happened in 1996.

Putin won because the people of Russia SUPPORT him, not because we are brainwashed.


Saying nasty things about your opponents is against the law. He not just said a couple of nasty things about his opponents, it was a waterfall of sh!t, bullsh!t and lie.

It was a Niagara of guano. Every day. Every hour. Every minute. EVERYWHERE.

Once again, you can't even imagine what kind of campaign it was. He had a 2% popularity rating at the beggining and still won. You think it's possible to accomplish in fair way? No f*cking way. I participated in all elections since 1996 (as voter, of course) and have to say that parliament elections of 2007 was the most fair and democratic elections in modern Russian history.
And hell yeah, I am an expert in all things Russian.

The end of story.

There is one subtle difference

In 1996 the media had a choice. They could be objective and allow a fair election between Yeltsin and the Communists knowing that if the Communists won they would lose the freedoms that they had gained since the breakup of the Soviet Union. They chose to back Yeltsin.

Since then media freedom has in reality been curtailed in many ways and they do not have the same choice to back Putin or not, that they had in 1996.

[Serb]

Originally posted by onodera

Actually, they represent 57.7% of the voters.

I mean the voters who participated in the elections.

[Fake Boris]

Serb, what's your opinion on the 30 or so journalists that have been killed in the recent past ?

[Sirotnikov]

NO ONE HAS BEEN KILLED, EVER!

And anyway they were just a really small percent: 30 / 50,000 other russian reporters who are alive.

Why are you crying about two dozen foreign influence agents? By comparison, Russia is filled with tons of living reporters, and they all love Putin. That is the democratic way.

Why do you keep hanging on to a few rotten apples?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Oerdin


LDP and A Just Russia are noteworthy only in so far as they rush to be more pro Putin then Putin's own party. They are simply extensions of United Russia under a different name. It is a difference without distinction. Their sole reason for existence is to claim they suck more of Putin's **** then United Russia does.

The only party Putin doesn't control in the Parliament is the Communists. Since Putin controls ~90% of the seats I'd say it is very fair to say Russia is a one party state.

Blah-blah-blah.

1) Putin doesn't control 90% of the seats.

2) LDPR is a "one man party". And the man, indeed, is a prostitute. But, btw, in 1993 he won the election that your belowed democrat Eltsin and his minions (Tchubais) just canceled, because they didn't like the results. Btw, it was the same year when your belowed democrat Eltsin bombarded the building of the Parliament with tanks and killed over a hundred CIVILIANS in attempt to establish his rule with iron hand and destroy the democratically elected parliament. He succeeded. I don't recall any complains about those events from your officials.

3) Just Russia are social-democrats who "stole" votes from Communists. Some of you complained that alliences are forbiden now. I've voted for Rodina in 2003. Now it is part of Just Russia among with the Party of Life (what a ****ty name) and the Party of Pensioneres. In 1999 I've voted for "Otechestvo vsya Rossia" (OVR). They finished third with 13%, while Communist finished first with 24% and Edinstvo (Unity) finished second with 23%. Then OVR and Unity (combined it makes 13+24=37%) have merged into a single party - United Russia.
That's point of reform to make few big parties, instead of FEW DOZENS we had in 1993, 1995 and 1999 (and still in the election of 2007 participated 11 political parties!!!). These few big parties represent more voters in parliament than dozens of tiny parties did in 1990's.

4) Re-read your article in the first post of this thread and you'll see that's BS.
Four parties in the 1995 parliamnet, five parties in the 1999 parliament, four parties in the 2003 parliament and four parties in the 2007 parliament.

A one party state Russia exists only in minds of your western bullsh!ters, who serve to the interrest of your stinking western brainwashing machine.

5) Have a nice day

[Serb]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Serb, what's your opinion on the 30 or so journalists that have been killed in the recent past ?

We have problems. Journalist is still a dangerous profession in Russia, but nowhere as dangerous as it was in 1990's, when nobody on the west gave a **** about a dead Russian journalists.

Btw, what's your opinion about journalists killed in Iraq?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov


NO ONE HAS BEEN KILLED, EVER!

Are you Serb?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Serb
Btw, what's your opinion about journalists killed in Iraq?

Is Moscow a warzone?

[Serb]

Sometimes.

[Serb]

But Russia is bigger than just Moscow. And aside war with terrorists, we still had criminal wars here and there(but not so intensive as they were in 1990's).

[Serb]

Originally posted by Myrddin



There is one subtle difference

In 1996 the media had a choice. They could be objective and allow a fair election between Yeltsin and the Communists knowing that if the Communists won they would lose the freedoms that they had gained since the breakup of the Soviet Union. They chose to back Yeltsin.

Since then media freedom has in reality been curtailed in many ways and they do not have the same choice to back Putin or not, that they had in 1996.

THEY HAD NO CHOICE IN 1996. The journalist did what their bosses told them to do. And their bosses (oligarchs) wanted Eltsin to stay in power, because HE LET THEM TO PILLAGE THE COUNTRY. In result there were a massive brainwashing campaign (not only in mass-media, actually) to keep the criminal regime in charge.

Comparing to 1996 our current mass-media is 100 times more correct , fair and objective.

1996 was a real shame.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Serb
5) Have a nice day

And you too, sir

[Saras]

russian elections are gay. FACT:

[Dinner]

Deny as you please. The only non-Putin centric party is the communist party and they only control around 10% of the seats. Russia is a defacto one party state and you know it.

[Myrddin]

Originally posted by Serb



THEY HAD NO CHOICE IN 1996. The journalist did what their bosses told them to do. And their bosses (oligarchs) wanted Eltsin to stay in power, because HE LET THEM TO PILLAGE THE COUNTRY. In result there were a massive brainwashing campaign (not only in mass-media, actually) to keep the criminal regime in charge.

Comparing to 1996 our current mass-media is 100 times more correct , fair and objective.

1996 was a real shame.

No, the journalists NOT the bosses made the decision in 1996.

The situation is different now where journalists get shot as well as fired.