Canadian aggressors tase immigrant to death

[Donegeal]

I did notice anything wrong with what the police did in this video. I amintrested in the autopsy results as this mad had no appearent drugs in his system. Perhaps there was some other medical situation that caused the death.

Originally posted by Flubber
I am against using tasers, pepper spray or any other assault on another unless there is a real need.. Even an agitated suspect should be given repeated opportunities to surrender or comply. If the guy rushed them with a knife or something I would fully support police putting a bullet in his head-- But in the circumstances it seems they had ample opportunity to plan an approach-- there is no mention of any potential harm to others-- So I would think minimal force would required

What is 'minimal force'? Or, more acurately, what is minimal force that still allows no chance of failer?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
Wezil, did you have anything to do with this?

Not me. I'm not going within taser distance of another one of these debates for a while.

[LotC]

The officers felt they were under threat and acted appropriately.

A while back, a guy got picked up outside a hockey arena in Houston BC for public drunkenness. 20 minutes later, he was dead from a gunshot wound to the back of the head in a police station. Apparently there was a struggle. Friends and family said that there was no way the guy would ever have gotten so out of control that he would have been perceived as a lethal threat. The investigation by police found:

The officer felt he was under threat and acted appropriately.

A few months back, some guy goes whacko in downtown Vancouver. Wielding a chain, he wanders out into traffic being chased by police. More than 10 feet away, he turns to face them. Two cops unload on him and kill him where he stands. The foregone conclusion?

The officers felt they were under threat and acted appropriately.

A few years back, I'm sitting outside my house having a smoke. I hear a loud screech of tires and a crash right out front. I grabbed my cell phone and ran around the corner with the intent of aiding the scene and calling 911. Halfway around the corner I encounter a cop running towards me.

"PUT DOWN THE GUN!" he yells. "It's not a gun, it's a cell phone!" I cry back.

Thankfully the officer did not act appropriately in that situation, otherwise I may not be writing this today.

Turns out the cops had been pursuing a stolen vehicle that had crashed in front of my house.

Afterwards, the cop had the temerity to give me **** for coming around the corner with an object in my hand. I took the **** and swallowed it, just thankful to be alive.

I will never rush to the scene of an accident again.

[Kuciwalker]

I don't think I've ever seen Donegeal not come in on the side of the cops.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Asher
I don't so much blame the cops here. The guy looked out of his mind. Sometimes people just react badly to being tased.

That's insane.

[Kidlicious]

There's no excuse for this at all. Definitely not fot the second tasing. And they probably tased him more than that. They could have handled the situation many different ways that would have been better than this. Do the stupid police even realise what taser weapons are capable of? They have all gone mad.

[Krill]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I don't think I've ever seen Donegeal not come in on the side of the cops.

True...

[Lorizael]

Well, you've never seen me not come to the side of the technical writers, right? We all have our biases.

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I don't think I've ever seen Donegeal not come in on the side of the cops.

Perhaps because I can actually see and understand the cops point of view (usually). Maybe I can do that because I am a cop and can very easily see myself in a number of these situations?

By the way, I know that there was at least once (maybe more) where I thought the cops did something wrong, but I don't remember the details.

Oh, and I think its funny you should say that because I was just reading a Yahoo article about a cop and thought to myself "Now there is one I can't support!"

Sheriff indicted in inmate-rent scheme

VALDOSTA, Ga. - A southern Georgia sheriff faces federal charges accusing him of billing inmates for room and board and interfering with an FBI investigation of local judges.

An indictment unsealed Thursday in U.S. District Court accuses Clinch County Sheriff Winston Peterson of perjury, obstruction of justice, using forced labor and extorting former jail inmates.

Peterson, 62, pleaded not guilty to the charges Thursday and was released on $10,000 bond.

Investigators say the sheriff charged jail inmates $18 per day for room and board. County officials agreed in April 2006 to return $27,000 to hundreds of inmates who paid the fees between 2000 and 2004. Peterson also used an inmate to do work at a business run by his wife, investigators say.

The sheriff is charged with obstructing justice by alerting an unindicted co-conspirator about the identity of an FBI informant he believed was part of a criminal investigation into courthouse activities. He is also accused of lying during a grand jury investigation of a Superior Court judge.

Neither Peterson nor his attorney could be reached for comment Thursday night. An after-hours call to his attorney's home went unanswered, and the sheriff could not be reached through the dispatcher.

Peterson is the latest Clinch County official to be caught up in investigations into the rural county's practices.

Superior Court Judge Brooks E. Blitch III and Chief State Court Judge Berrien Sutton face allegations by the Judicial Qualifications Commission, a state agency that investigates Georgia judges and has power to recommend removing them from office. They have not been charged with any crimes.

Blitch, 72, is accused of ordering illegal payments to county employees, ordering the early release of imprisoned felons and presiding over a case involving his son.

Blitch's attorneys have said an investigation will prove he is innocent.

Sutton is accused of appointing non-lawyers to hear criminal cases, pressing a magistrate judge to help one of his business associates and signing an illegal order to collect court fees that were later distributed to county officials.

Thomas Whithers, an attorney for Sutton, said Wednesday the judge looks forward to his day in court. "Judge Sutton has done nothing wrong and will vigorously defend these allegations," he said.

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by Krill


True...

I consider it the lone voice of reason in this crazy place called Apolyton.

[Wezil]

I was more interested in this comment Donegeal...

Originally posted by Donegeal

What is 'minimal force'? Or, more acurately, what is minimal force that still allows no chance of failer?

It is your concern with failure that I wonder at. Do you mean the suspect getting away, the officer getting hurt, or the suspect getting hurt? I take it the officer's safety is your prime concern (correct me if I'm wrong).

Are you implying an officer's job should be risk free?

[LordShiva]

I'd gladly pay a cop $18 if he agreed not to tase me to death for no reason

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by LordShiva
I'd gladly pay a cop $18 if he agreed not to tase me to death for no reason

Even a management consultant is worth more than that.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Even a management consultant is worth more than that.

$1,750 a day

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by LordShiva


$1,750 a day

Maybe your boss could match your offer so that you can live.