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  • #16
    Its their job. Sure you don't mind soaking up the benefits in the easy posts but once its time to earn your keep all of a sudden its "not what I signed up for." Read your contracts, some Army Reservists can tell you how it worked out for them.

    "But I only joined the reserves for the extra money, I didn't actually want to fight..."
    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Wezil
      just a job that literally anyone can do without any particular skills or training.
      Even Texans? Perhaps they should deploy the trained monkeys first.
      "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
      "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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      • #18
        Geez diplomacy sure has come a long way since the days of the Great Game in the 19th century...

        Can't they just retire if they don't wanna go? I mean 'forcing' means you HAVE to, right?

        I'm sure there's a lot of reservists in Iraq who would love to be trained to fill one of these cushy jobs.
        "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
        "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
        "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patroklos
          Its their job. Sure you don't mind soaking up the benefits in the easy posts but once its time to earn your keep all of a sudden its "not what I signed up for." Read your contracts, some Army Reservists can tell you how it worked out for them.

          "But I only joined the reserves for the extra money, I didn't actually want to fight..."
          QFFT

          chicken**** ***** ass liberals

          either you serve your country or you don't.

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          • #20
            "It's one thing if someone believes in what's going on over there and volunteers, but it's another thing to send someone over there on a forced assignment," Mr Croddy said.
            Yes, cause you know, everyone in government only do their job if they believe in the policy being executed, and if they don't, they automatically get an exemption (but they keep all the sweet bonuses).

            "I'm sorry, but basically that's a potential death sentence and you know it. Who will raise our children if we are dead or seriously wounded?
            This reeks of so much selfishness and disrespect for the guys losing their lives in the army and intelligence services...

            This guy has not a patriotic bone in him.
            I would fire this guy and strip him of pension.

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            • #21
              "I'm sorry, but basically that's a potential death sentence and you know it. Who will raise our children if we are dead or seriously wounded?
              And this fallacy still continues, despite the fact that Iraq is anything but a blood bath

              If anything they should be happy to go, a virtual guarunteed to come back unharmed plus the significant bennies for serving in that theatre.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • #22
                Out of curiosity, exactly how many State employees have been killed in Iraq compared to how many are there? I'm curious about the basis for this whining.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #23
                  I think the articles say 3, I am not going to read them again though,

                  God only knows how many thousands of state department employees have rotated through there in the last 4 years.
                  "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Lancer
                    I'd go tomorrow if they give me three squares a day and $80,000 non taxed at the end of one year, all the benefits and a two million $ life insurance policy for the duration.
                    I don't think they can give you the "non-taxed" deal. The IRS always gets theirs.

                    And really, the reason State employees are raising Cain about this is to get the government to change their mind before they resign en mass. I mean a lot will probably refuse, but this way, the admin knows it prior to the fact and may change their tune on it.

                    I also think it's a culmination of frustration at the administration. I think the Washington Post article said that 88% of State employees do NOT think Condi Rice is fighting for them and probably a good number of diplomats at State disagree with the Iraq War.
                    Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; November 1, 2007, 14:26.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      Phony diplomats
                      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                        Phony diplomats
                        qft
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          I don't think they can give you the "non-taxed" deal. The IRS always gets theirs.
                          The military doesn't pay federal taxes (just SS) when in hazardous duty zones, or rather the income earned during your period there is not taxable giving you that added advantage of dropping a tax bracket usually for what is taxed. I took full benefit of this while in such zones
                          "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                          • #28
                            Is that just the military though? I wasn't under the impression that civilian government workers got the same, even while in hazardous duty zones.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #29
                              Is that just the military though? I wasn't under the impression that civilian government workers got the same, even while in hazardous duty zones.
                              I'm not sure, but I would imagine the mechanism to make the same apply to other government employees would be the same or similar.

                              A lot of civilians to hard, dangerous and useful work in such zones, I would think it only fair to let them get the same benefits.
                              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                              • #30
                                I dunno. I know of two friends (not government workers though) of mine going over there for the no tax thing.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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