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  • #31
    Originally posted by Victor Galis


    See... now this would be a good issue to steal from the NDP.
    I disagree.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Wezil


      I disagree.
      Maybe not in terms of electibility, but someone credible has to stand up to the erosion of civil liberties.
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      • #33
        Is it a civil right for criminals to be allowed into Canada?
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #34
          Not allowing those convicted of criminal offences into the country is a long standing and good rule. Just b/c some NDP nutters think otherwise doesn't make it so.
          "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
          "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DinoDoc
            Is it a civil right for criminals to be allowed into Canada?
            Since when is non-violent protest a serious crime?

            Not allowing those convicted of criminal offences into the country is a long standing and good rule. Just b/c some NDP nutters think otherwise doesn't make it so.
            So if a repressive regime were to classify someone as a criminal for being a dissident, we shouldn't let them in?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Victor Galis
              So if a repressive regime were to classify someone as a criminal for being a dissident, we shouldn't let them in?
              No. Our admission requirements can take into account repressive regimes. Unfortunately for your position, our courts don't consider the US to be one of these regimes. The rule of law still prevails (although I will concede it is being sorely tested).

              Similar issue with the US soldiers that have fled up here looking for sanctuary. They are losing their immigration hearings.
              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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              • #37
                Hopefully, post-2008 election in the US things will improve, and changes won't be necessary. You know, if the US had a parliamentary system the Bush govt. would have fallen long ago and we'd not have these issues.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Victor Galis

                  Isn't that the same Denmark that allowed publication of caricatures of the prophet?
                  And the same country where making such caricatures is a threat to your own life.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Victor Galis
                    Hopefully, post-2008 election in the US things will improve, and changes won't be necessary.
                    Keep hoping. It looks like the Dems are sleepwalking to defeat yet again.
                    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Wezil


                      Keep hoping. It looks like the Dems are sleepwalking to defeat yet again.
                      I don't know. I think Hillary can win. I'm not sure how good of a thing that is, but she's not as scary as Rudy.
                      "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                      -Joan Robinson

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Victor Galis


                        I don't know. I think Hillary can win.
                        Yes that is what the Dems believe. They also thought Kerry and Gore could win as well.

                        Hillary will lose.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Riesstiu IV


                          And the same country where making such caricatures is a threat to your own life.


                          I'll bet it's much more dangerous to make such in the US - there the nutcase just have to go to his local gunshop to get a weapon; that is if he doesn't already have a collection af assault rifles
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                          • #43
                            No actually it's not. Making a cartoon mocking the Christian right or any other movement would only get you angry letters at best and not half the world up in arms and rioting.

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                            • #44
                              Ehrm, what are you talking about ???? Noone would notice it here neither if it was christian mocking - that we did back in the 70'ies - even a film where jesus had lot of fun with women etc.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • #45
                                The Muslims over here don't get violent about stuff either.

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