But was there consent?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Wezil
How about this one?

Cheat on your wife/husband and be put on a sex offender registry?!

I think the idea is probably more aimed at the idea that the clergy is in a position of authority with respect to the parishoner. But in that case it should apply to unmarried clergy who could equally abuse the position.

In many ways its like a doctor patient thing. Doctors often face professional discipline for sexual conduct with patients even when that conduct was away from the office, with an adult and wholly consensual. But they don't go on a sex offender registry. I would think that thats all a church should do-- If a priest acts inappropriately --DISCIPLINE them as a priest

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Interestingly, the article doesn't specify which law was broken

On Wednesday Mr Stewart admitted to sexual breach of the peace in Ayr Sheriff Court

the results for "sexual breach of the peace" are interesting

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ZY9&q=%22sexual+breach+of+the+peace%22&btnG=Search

[Thoth]

Originally posted by Wezil
How about this one?


The register will be based on complaints, according to Gerber, and include accused church workers even if those accusations of sexual abuse are unproven. Only if the accused is completely cleared of the allegation will the minister or church worker's name come off the list.

Cheat on your wife/husband and be put on a sex offender registry?!

You don't even have to cheat. Just get accused of it. I smell a witchhunt.

[b etor]

oh jeez.

[Kropotkin]

A possibility, that could make it into something at least close to a crime, is that the offender actually wanted the hostel workers to come in and see him in the act. Somewhat like a flasher. But I wonder, seems like something that's hard to prove.

[Thoth]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
A possibility, that could make it into something at least close to a crime, is that the offender actually wanted the hostel workers to come in and see him in the act. Somewhat like a flasher. But I wonder, seems like something that's hard to prove.

Very difficult to prove since the door to the room was locked and the two cleaners had to use a master key to unlock the door.

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
A possibility, that could make it into something at least close to a crime, is that the offender actually wanted the hostel workers to come in and see him in the act. Somewhat like a flasher. But I wonder, seems like something that's hard to prove.

Or if he wasn't permitted to be in the room at the time ... I suppose they could argue that he didn't hang a "DND" sign outside, but ...

[Wezil]

I reserve judgement until I see a picture of the bicycle. Maybe it is really cute.

[-Jrabbit]

[Alinestra Covelia]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I assume the guy didn't have decent representation. The dildo argument is perfectly reasonable. (Unless those are illegal in Britain also? I thought Americans were supposed to be the puritans...)

America has, for better or worse, been very suspicious of government control. The Bill of Rights doesn't mention privacy anywhere in it, but the Supreme Court has been quite willing to read it in.

From what I understand, the UK is less opposed to government intervention. This has its upsides (national health service that, despite its flaws, puts America to shame) but also its downsides (increasing "nanny state" surveillance and punitive measures).

My position on all of this? If you're going to use a banana, make sure you peel it first. I cannot stress this enough.

[Cort Haus]

Someone should accuse Gerber of sexual misconduct and get him on the register.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
From what I understand, the UK is less opposed to government intervention. This has its upsides (national health service that, despite its flaws, puts America to shame) but also its downsides (increasing "nanny state" surveillance and punitive measures).

I don't think that there is a universal approval among UK voters for this level of state interventionism, but there is certainly a failure of the political class that allows the country to sleep-walk towards authoritarianism.

[Sandman]

This isn't government intervention, it's (probably) an isolated bit of moronic justice. There's plenty of that in the US.

[Kataphraktoi]

From what I understand, the UK is less opposed to government intervention. This has its upsides (national health service that, despite its flaws, puts America to shame) but also its downsides (increasing "nanny state" surveillance and punitive measures).

They shouldnt let people watch sicko.

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by Thoth
Very difficult to prove since the door to the room was locked and the two cleaners had to use a master key to unlock the door.

Not really a suprise to anyone. Most hotel cleaners use master keys! [/besserwisser]