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    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

  • #2
    Meh.

    As corrupt and inefficient the Soviet system was, if there wasn't a military and ideological counterweight to it, it wouldn't have collapsed and all of us would've been living in Soviet Republics.
    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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    • #3
      The western system also had a military and ideological counterweight to it, why didn't it collapse?

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      • #4
        Because we like French fries.

        Spec.
        -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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        • #5
          FREEDOM FRIES!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by VetLegion
            The western system also had a military and ideological counterweight to it, why didn't it collapse?
            Hmmmm,
            World-record national debt
            Near world-record national deficit
            World-record trade deficit
            National-record consumer debt
            Most expensive military in the history of humanity
            Financially irresponsible moron in the White House
            Financially irresponsible morons in the Congress

            Collapse coming in 5...4...3...2...1...

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            • #7
              Good video in the OP.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #8
                Interesting series
                "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                • #9
                  The video has a good point. American pressure didn't lead to Chernobyl, a declining life expectancy, rampant alcoholism, shoddy consumer goods, an increasing non-Russian population, worthless industries or dwindling economic clout.

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                  • #10
                    If you listen to commies, apparently the US was to blame for the failures of communism. Therefore, "US pressure" DID cause those things. Therefore, WE WON THE COLD WAR LOL PWNT!

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #11
                      No it didn't... Comies ranting that are just unhappy at the inherent faliures of comunism and try to blaim others.... Let's face it people America played on cheiftan ever since 1969..
                      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                      • #12
                        We may be playing at Chieftain but give us a break. We're newbies compared to others Civs who have been at it for millennia. We only started in 1776.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
                          We may be playing at Chieftain but give us a break. We're newbies compared to others Civs who have been at it for millennia. We only started in 1776.
                          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                          • #14
                            As corrupt and inefficient the Soviet system was, if there wasn't a military and ideological counterweight to it, it wouldn't have collapsed and all of us would've been living in Soviet Republics.
                            But there is always a military and ideological counterweight (the rest of the world aint a vacuum) and it wouldn't have mattered one bit if the USA existed. Most people wont accept dictatorships unless the alternative is actually worse and resistance will develop. Magnify that, the successful dictatorship will expand and with it the problems of maintaining an empire. I think you severely underestimate tribalism and nationalism, when we left Vietnam SE Asia was supposed to become puppets of China and the USSR. Instead, the Viets got into wars with other commies encroaching on their tribal and national borders.

                            "Communism" has its appeal in the 3rd world because of colonialism, not because its a superior economic system. The colonial powers stole land and put puppet dictators in charge, communism brought the promise of "land reform" - returning stolen land. Thats why the west opposed communism, western assets to extract resources would likely be "nationalized".

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