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  • #16
    Originally posted by DinoDoc
    But Bush swept it into his Department of Homeland Security
    His? He oppossed its creation before wussing out and giving in.
    I'll have to agree with you there. Executive Order 13228 of Oct 8th '01 established the Office of Homeland Security. It was Congress (specifically, Sen. Lieberman) who was the first sponsor of a bill on Oct 11th '01 for the Office of Homeland Security be wrapped with other offices into a cabinet-level department (the DHS). The following summer saw a different version of the bill in both chambers and Bush signed it into law in Nov '02. But I don't believe for one second that VP Cheney and other PNAC signatories hadn't been pushing behind the scenes as well. I would certainly put it past Bush; he has never been that bright or capable of forethought.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DRoseDARs


      I'll have to agree with you there. Executive Order 13228 of Oct 8th '01 established the Office of Homeland Security. It was Congress (specifically, Sen. Lieberman) who was the first sponsor of a bill on Oct 11th '01 for the Office of Homeland Security be wrapped with other offices into a cabinet-level department (the DHS). The following summer saw a different version of the bill in both chambers and Bush signed it into law in Nov '02. But I don't believe for one second that VP Cheney and other PNAC signatories hadn't been pushing behind the scenes as well. I would certainly put it past Bush; he has never been bright or capable of forethought.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zkribbler
        This is the death knell for FEMA. It was a well run organization under Clinton, who appointed professionals to head it. But Bush swept it into his Department of Homeland Security and appointed his know-nothing incompetent cronies to run it. Ironically, this department has now becomes its own disaster area.

        No, the press and anti-Bushies decided that FEMA was supposed to be a magic wand to miraculously fix every disaster despite the idiocy of local politics, when it was only designed to coordinate Federal monies being directed from and through the gamut of agencies.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          A major Republican Governor is trying to figure out the truth about slow response times from the Bush Administration
          It looks like that one is already known.


          But I don't believe for one second that VP Cheney and other PNAC signatories hadn't been pushing behind the scenes as well.

          irrational
          adjective
          1. not consistent with or using reason; "irrational fears";

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          Function: noun
          2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others
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          • #20
            Wow! Deus Ex is real.
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • #21
              Whatever helps you sleep at night, DD.
              The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

              The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                Wow! Deus Ex is real.
                Exactly what I thought seeing this story.

                Once the bug bites, you've already lost the patient.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  It looks like that one is already known.
                  The local press has already torn in to that excuse. Winds died down by noon on Monday and that's when the local and state planes started doing drops. For some reason the Federal planes didn't arrive until Weds. afternoon.

                  If the winds were so bad the Federal planes couldn't have flown then how is it the state owned planes were flying just fine? Face it, that is a BS excuse.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Oerdin
                    The local press has already torn in to that excuse.
                    Don't you live in San Diego? Or is there another San Diego I don't know about outside of CA?
                    Face it, that is a BS excuse.
                    Bureaucracy didn't delay things?
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                    • #25
                      Yawn.

                      I'm trying to be surprised at this. Really, I am. Except I expect this sort of bull**** from this administration now.

                      These people make the splattered diarrhea in a public bathroom look clean, and they make a lobotomized ****** that doesn't understand object permanence look intelligent.
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                      • #26
                        Oh, and they make the pedophilic priests look honorable.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc

                          Bureaucracy didn't delay things?
                          That is the correct answer. Claiming that winds would have prevented aircraft from being used was a lie because aircraft was already being used. The Feds need to just own up and admit bureacracy was the reason.

                          They won't do that though because that would mean they might have to change something to improve response time. Thus they came up with a lie about winds.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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