My daily OUTREGE!!!! NFLers not no-ing where Lundon is and that they speak English

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Originally posted by Darius871

racist

Up yours. I'm talking about all the tattoos and the corn row hair cut. There are many blacks attending top schools but most of them don't chose that style.

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I've been watching some SuperBash IV clips on youtube and it looked like it was a huge party. I'm not sure why they had a 25 foot tall robot football player but, judging from the large numbers of videos on youtube, the cheerleaders were a big hit.

I'm not sure if Red Ken is off his rocker though. He was saying he wanted to get NFL teams set up in the UK and to have a Super Bowl held in the UK. It would be interesting if it happened but I'm not sure North American football will be able to break into an established market like that.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Up yours. I'm talking about all the tattoos and the corn row hair cut. There are many blacks attending top schools but most of them don't chose that style.

...and some of them do. If I see a black guy walking down the street with cornrows and tats, I don't think to myself "he's clearly not Harvard material." I think nothing at all, because I haven't had the opportunity to determine the content of his character just yet. Making unfounded assumptions like yours is almost as prejudiced as one can get.

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Maybe it is prejudicial to judge people by how they are dressed but it is also a fact of life. That's why so many employers have dress codes and why everyone gets dressed up when they go to a job interview.

As the old saying goes "Dress the part, be the part".

[Darius871]

What if he was brought up to dress that way? He can't be blamed for his environment.

[DinoDoc]

Hmmm.

/me wonders if the paper he read on symbolic racism was true

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Back on topic. The American Football is the only North American sport which hasn't found popularity outside of North America. Baseball is big in Latin America and parts of Asia, Basketball has found fans around the world, hockey was international before it came to the US & Canada. I suppose a case could be made that NASCAR doesn't have an audience besides the locals but car racing is popular around the world so if they ever try to expand then they have potential fans.

The NFL needs to turn their franchise into an international organization if it wants to compete. It won't be easy since other games are played all over but Basketball broke in so maybe the NFL can too. The UK & Ireland seem like the logical place to try since language isn't a barrier, they already have plenty of stadiums, plus there are a number of US & Canadians living there along with more then a few locals who once lived in the US or Canada.

I know NFL Europe folded fairly quickly due to lack of interest so if they want to make another go then they need to do something really big to get people's attention. A London Superbowl might be a good way to do that.

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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Hmmm.

* DinoDoc wonders if the paper he read on symbolic racism was true

Serious question: What did it say? Always interested in at least hearing theories.

[Starchild]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Yes. According to my contacts at TFL the line closures were aimed at you personally.

And the ticket inspectors at random in the tube stations? And-what-seems-to-be-yet-another price increase in day travel card prices?

Oh TFL, you've won this round but victory will be mine.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Starchild
And-what-seems-to-be-yet-another price increase in day travel card prices?

Did you have an Oyster card? Livingstone is using price increases like thumbscrews to force people to use them. It's way too expensive without. Luckily you can still use them anonymously, but I suspect they will be ID-linked eventually.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Back on topic. The American Football is the only North American sport which hasn't found popularity outside of North America. Baseball is big in Latin America and parts of Asia, Basketball has found fans around the world, hockey was international before it came to the US & Canada. I suppose a case could be made that NASCAR doesn't have an audience besides the locals but car racing is popular around the world so if they ever try to expand then they have potential fans.

The NFL needs to turn their franchise into an international organization if it wants to compete. It won't be easy since other games are played all over but Basketball broke in so maybe the NFL can too. The UK & Ireland seem like the logical place to try since language isn't a barrier, they already have plenty of stadiums, plus there are a number of US & Canadians living there along with more then a few locals who once lived in the US or Canada.

I know NFL Europe folded fairly quickly due to lack of interest so if they want to make another go then they need to do something really big to get people's attention. A London Superbowl might be a good way to do that.

I gather the wembley pitch cut up quite badly. Not too many top football teams would want their playing surface getting that treatment from a gridiron game, so many larger stadia would be ruled out. Then again, I don't know how many people would regularly attend games, so a small venue might suffice. Or rugby venues.

If the NFL wants to "turn their franchise into an international organization" then fine. What worries me is the looming threat that the new foreign owners of English teams want to turn the clubs into 'franchises' (the word sends a chill down the spine of English football fans) and have them playing matches in eg: the US. Uprooting the League game from its home-and-away principles seems wrong, and would seem the first step towards the dreaded 'franchise' where teams can be uprooted from their geographical history and replanted elsewhere. Possibly even in another country.

[Starchild]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Did you have an Oyster card? Livingstone is using price increases like thumbscrews to force people to use them. It's way too expensive without. Luckily you can still use them anonymously, but I suspect they will be ID-linked eventually.

I live in Brighton so I'm not up in London on much more than a monthly basis. But I think next time I'm there I will pick up an Oyster for future usage

[Peter Triggs]

Originally posted by Oerdin
hockey was international before it came to the US & Canada.

At least Channing Crowder may have been joking. But, sigh, IIRC you do live in southern California.

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Originally posted by Oerdin
I've been watching some SuperBash IV clips on youtube and it looked like it was a huge party. I'm not sure why they had a 25 foot tall robot football player but, judging from the large numbers of videos on youtube, the cheerleaders were a big hit.

I'm not sure if Red Ken is off his rocker though. He was saying he wanted to get NFL teams set up in the UK and to have a Super Bowl held in the UK. It would be interesting if it happened but I'm not sure North American football will be able to break into an established market like that.

for not linking cheerleader videos

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what's with the streakers? Is this a requirement at any large public event in England?