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  • #31
    Originally posted by BeBro
    Heraclitus, are you into some sort of atheist crusade?

    P.S. Nietzsche is overrated.
    Why would I be on an atheist crusade and is such a thing even possible? Well, announcing
    the death of God is a powerful philosophical, civilisational or even to my surprise a theological idea*. I can see as that could be considered an attack on religion to put it mildly.

    It is hard to overrate Nietzsche like it is hard to overrate Plato, Spinoza or Sartre. Even those great thinkers whose ideas have little relevance today (and Nietzsche’s and Plato certainly aren’t like that) have a very strong indirect cultural influence; they have become less people and more symbols if you catch my drift.

    But I understand a German might have just about enough of him, since national pride can lead to unbearable forms of kitsch.


    BTW What is thought (and taught) of Nietzsche in Germany these days anyway? And how familiar are you with philosophy, sociology and physics if you don’t mind me asking… Do you happen to have any formal education on the subject?

    PS If I was on an atheist crusade would that be a bad thing and why so?


    *the death of god theological movement is superficialy mentioned in the wiki main article.
    Last edited by Heraclitus; October 25, 2007, 10:26.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SlowwHand
      You don't get the irony of your own post now do you?
      Why would I want aspirin, which cures you of a little self-pity when I have full-spectrum antibiotics which cure full blow nihilism in many cases?


      (With possible side effects, please consult your psychiatrist or a local philosopher before use.)
      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Heraclitus
        Why would I be on an atheist crusade and is such a thing even possible?
        I have no idea why, but yes, it's absolutely possible.

        Well, announcing
        the death of God is a powerful philosophical, civilisational or even to my surprise a theological idea*. I can see as that could be considered an attack on religion to put it mildly.
        I don't really care if it's an attack or not, I just wondered since most (all?) of your OT threads are about religous stuff.

        It is hard to overrate Nietzsche like it is hard to overrate Plato, Spinoza or Sartre. Even those great thinkers whose ideas have little relevance today (and Nietzsche’s and Plato certainly aren’t like that) have a very strong indirect cultural influence; they have become less people and more symbols if you catch my drift.
        Well, esp. Sartre is overrated too

        BTW What is thought (and taught) of Nietzsche in Germany these days anyway?
        Of course he is widely regarded as one of the most important philo-guys of Germany and therefore his works have quite some impact. This has not always been the case, esp. close after WWII when many saw him (like Heidegger) as a kind of Nazi-philosopher (even if they knew that N's sister "raped" his works to make it Nazi-compatible).

        But today this stuff is found everywhere. He still kinda divides people into those who think he's the greatest philo ever and those who - often strongly - dislike him for various reasons (while for example Kant doesn't divide people here in the same ways).

        As for me personally, I'm not a philosopher, I'm into history/political science. But there you have to read philosophical texts too.

        PS If I was on an atheist crusade would that be a bad thing and why so?
        Dunno, depends if it is entertaining. Seriously, these things (well religion I mean, not N) were/are discussed over and over in various forms here. That is why people often react with spam, because they might get deja vus with such threads. But if you add a new facet we won't stop you.
        Blah

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        • #34
          Don't seek God, he will seek you
          So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
          Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BeBro

            I don't really care if it's an attack or not, I just wondered since most (all?) of your OT threads are about religous stuff.



            Well, esp. Sartre is overrated too


            Dunno, depends if it is entertaining. Seriously, these things (well religion I mean, not N) were/are discussed over and over in various forms here. That is why people often react with spam, because they might get deja vus with such threads. But if you add a new facet we won't stop you.
            Two threads do not make a patter. I'm not anti-religious per se, but the guys that are, usually prove to be more entertaining than those who aren't...

            You do have a point on Sartre; he was in retrospect, a bad example. Bud I’d say Plato, Kant and Nietzsche are the kind of symbols I mentioned.

            And thus far, have I been entertaining?
            Last edited by Heraclitus; October 25, 2007, 10:28.
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #36
              Seeking God? Just e-mail Him.

              Both God.com and God.org can help you in your quest. The latter even allows you to send an e-mail to God, which is probably the fastest way to communicate with Him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Heraclitus
                And thus far, have I been entertaining?
                Nope.
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                • #38
                  I'm here. What do you want now?
                  What?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Perfection

                    Nope.
                    I must regretfully concur. Quoting Nietzsche is not quality entertainment. To try and make spam edifying or enlightening is to miss the point of spam (which is that it has no point).
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                    Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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                    • #40
                      What I wasn't expecting to entertaining... That comment was ment as a response to BeBro's statement.
                      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                      • #41
                        Business as usual: they call for me, they pray, they beg and what do they do when i finally show up? They talk about SPAM and Nietzsche. He's dead by the way.
                        What?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Heraclitus Cultural variety equals more diversity and increases the potential for social evolution in our dinosaur-like western society unless
                          Stop right there and explain to us:

                          1. How is Slovenia a western society? I think not. Slovakia, yes.
                          2. How do you explain that you voted for fascist Jelincic in Slovenia's latest elections and he got 25% of the vote?
                          3. Has your Nazi sympatism (which is pretty obvious) led you to read Nietzsche before or after you read Mein Kampf?

                          Thanks.

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                          • #43
                            Sounds like fighting words.
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Wezil
                              Sounds like fighting words.
                              It would be trouble if I was a low-brow nationalist fool , but I'm not so I'll just respond as to how I truly feel and try too provide some facts if I'm not to tried (it’s getting late and I have analysis classes in the early morning).
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                              • #45
                                Hi Vetlegion, your question was put in a polite tone, even though it is clear you did not mean it that way. Being offensive towards someone nation for no particular reason really isn’t very nice, but it is acceptable in some cases and you are quite lucky that I like most Slovenians am not really a nationalist, I’m if anything a transnationalist this has however due in large part to my humanistic world-view and less with my cultural enviromen.

                                I'm going to try my best to answer your questions.
                                Last edited by Heraclitus; October 25, 2007, 20:01.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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