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    Some of you may remember my thread in 2003 when the area where my parent's house is was ordered evacuated due the massively out of control Cedar Fire WIKI here. The Cedar Fire was the largest wild fire in the history of the continental US and by the grace of God it stopped just 1 block short of my parent's house though many of our neighbors had everything they owned burned.

    Yesterday morning another wild fire was started by an arsonist and by yesterday evening the smoke and ash was so bad that many people started wearing masks while outside. I went to the movies last night and while driving it was an almost total white out condition. Today my father called to tell me that the Scripps Ranch area, the area he lives and where I grew up, has be ordered evacuated by the police and fire departments. Southern California is in its 4th year of drought so the forests and bushes around San Diego are dry as a match stick plus we are currently experiencing Santa Anna winds (normally the winds blow from the ocean onto land bring moist air and gentle breezes but during a Santa Anna high pressure in the inland deserts cause very hard winds to blow through the mountain passes drying the vegetation making it extremely difficult to fight forest fires).

    I'm off to help my father evacuate his house. We plan on loading up family pictures, legal documents, and small but expensive items like by dead mother's jewelry collection. Scripps Ranch is such a beautiful area with the extensive open spaces and forests of eucalyptus, sycamore, and oak trees but it seems living so close to nature has its costs.
    Last edited by Dinner; October 22, 2007, 21:27.
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    An article from the San Diego Union-Tribune Newspaper. This just sucks. For the second time in 3 years we face evacuation and the potential lose of everything. Last time we got lucky and the fire was stopped 1 block from the house but in many ways this fire looks worse.
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    • #3
      Hope everything works out okay for your family!!
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      • #4
        I just got off the phone with my ex-girlfriend. Her house in Poway has burned down and she will be staying at my house until she can settle things. All of her family is in North Carolina and though we've broken up I'm her best friend here. This royally sucks.

        Also I spoke on the phone with an old high school friend and he told me his parents house in Penasquitos, the area just north of Mira Mesa/Scripps Ranch which is best know for its large nature preserve and Spanish colonial era ranch house, has also been ordered evacuated. The wind is whipping this fire out of control. The Poway area, northwest of where my father's house is, has already suffered major damage. The news is saying up to 100 houses may have already burned and the fire department is saying they don't have the manpower to stop it even though units are being moved in from around the western US.
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          Sometimes when I hear about these I wonder why they don't just dig a few 200m ditches from the ocean straight inland a few miles (that will then fill with ocean water)... these are on the ocean side of the mountains, right? It would at least put water nearer even if 200m isn't wide enough to stop fire spread (and would slow it, at least)...

          It would do a lot of damage to the ecology, but it would save it from fires and probably create an all new, interesting one. It might even save a few lives in Thailand when the ocean level rises (Okay this part isn't serious, but the first paragraph is...)
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            Why is Oerdin an expert for broken links without fixing them?

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              My parents moved out of an area that was within a few hundred yards of where the flames were this morning. They moved just over a month ago.

              We know a lot of other people who are in the mandatory and advisory evacuation areas. It looks like this is going to be much worse than the Cedar fire.
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                That is a nice map of them ... well not nice since it is not big enough, but it gets the idea across
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by snoopy369
                  Sometimes when I hear about these I wonder why they don't just dig a few 200m ditches from the ocean straight inland a few miles (that will then fill with ocean water)... these are on the ocean side of the mountains, right? It would at least put water nearer even if 200m isn't wide enough to stop fire spread (and would slow it, at least)...
                  Huge costs, and water doesn't flow uphill.

                  The most developed affected areas are on the ocean side of the mountains, but still several hundred feet elevation and surrounded by canyons, hills, etc.
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                  • #10
                    :desire: Good luck, O.

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                      Sorry to hear that. I hope they have decent insurance just in case.
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                      • #12
                        oh jeez.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by snoopy369
                          Sometimes when I hear about these I wonder why they don't just dig a few 200m ditches from the ocean straight inland a few miles (that will then fill with ocean water)... these are on the ocean side of the mountains, right? It would at least put water nearer even if 200m isn't wide enough to stop fire spread (and would slow it, at least)...
                          Lots of hills, steep enough already and prone to landslides in the rainy season. Undercutting the hills often by hundreds of feet... just wouldn't work.

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                          • #14
                            Good Luck to you and your family.

                            /me hopes for another miracle and that the fire will stop short once again.
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                            • #15
                              I thought you had another bad house mate.
                              Glad it's just your parent's place.
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