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  • Arnold Schwarzenegger sues George Bush

    The EPA has stalled California's Automobile Green House Gas Pollution Control Law for 2 years and now the Governator has decided to sue the EPA to stop their obstructionism.

    California will sue EPA for right to enforce strict clean-air law

    (10-19) 17:52 PDT SAN FRANCISCO - California will sue the Bush administration next week to demand action on a long-stalled request to let the state limit auto emissions of gases linked to global warming, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's office said today.

    "We've just waited too long" for a decision from the Environmental Protection Agency, said Schwarzenegger's press secretary, Aaron McLear.

    The state asked the EPA in December 2005 for permission to enforce the California law, the model for statutes passed later in 11 other states. The EPA's approval is needed for California to implement a law more stringent than federal clean-air standards, and the agency has granted every such request California has made over the past 30 years.

    The EPA held a public hearing in May and has promised a decision by the end of the year. But McLear said the state has run out of patience and will go to court Wednesday, the deadline that Schwarzenegger set in April when he served notice of an intent to sue if the EPA didn't act within 180 days.

    "There's really no excuse at this point why we shouldn't be granted a waiver," McLear said. He said the state's case was strengthened in April when the U.S. Supreme Court, in a suit filed by California and other states against the EPA, "agreed with the rest of the world that greenhouse gas emissions are bad for the air."

    The suit will be filed in a Washington, D.C., federal court, as required by law, said state Attorney General Jerry Brown.

    "The most prominent Republican governor suing the Bush administration sends a powerful message, which I hope will influence Congress" to pass global-warming legislation, Brown said in an interview.

    Despite the EPA's assurances of an impending decision, he said, "they require continuous, persistent pressure."

    EPA spokeswoman Jessica Emond said the agency is reviewing more than 100,000 written responses and thousands of pages of documents it received during the public comment period this spring and will act on the request by the end of the year.

    The 2002 state law, the first of its kind in the nation, requires new motor vehicles sold in California to limit emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, which scientists consider a major contributor to climate change. The restrictions take effect with the 2009 models and increase to a 30 percent reduction from current levels by 2016.

    Auto manufacturers have sued to overturn the law, arguing that the only way to cut greenhouse gas emissions is to increase vehicle miles per gallon, a subject that is regulated exclusively by the federal government.

    A federal judge in Vermont rejected that argument last month and upheld a law that is identical to California's. The judge also rebuffed the companies' claims that it would be technically arduous and financially ruinous for them to comply with the law.

    The California suit is pending before a federal judge in Fresno, who has scheduled a hearing Nov. 19.

    The U.S. Supreme Court also dealt automakers a blow in April when it ruled that greenhouse gases were air pollutants, covered by federal clean-air laws, and that the EPA must limit those emissions unless scientific evidence justifies a lack of regulation. The agency has not acted in response to the ruling, and President Bush has repeated his opposition to mandatory emission limits.

    Major environmental groups, which have joined the state in defense of its law, have also served notice on the EPA that they intend to sue over the agency's delay on California's application to enforce the law. The recent court rulings have heightened the importance of the federal agency's impending decision, Sierra Club attorney David Bookbinder said Friday.

    "The key issue is what decision EPA makes now on a waiver to uphold California's historical right to regulate air pollution," Bookbinder said. Under standards set by the federal Clean Air Act, he said, California unquestionably qualifies for a waiver.
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  • #2
    Generally, federal law preempts state law in this area. When it's all said and done, the courts most likely will recognize this.

    Of course, it's still good for political posturing in California and Vermont.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      A republican suing another republican? Can the US get any more Sue happy?
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      • #4
        Schwarzneger should just recognize that the Republican Party has lost a lot of its respectability and become an independent. Either that or he and Bloomberg should start a party .
        "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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        • #5
          What a brilliant thread title. Do you even try to read articles you post?

          Originally posted by CivGeneral
          A republican suing another republican? Can the US get any more Sue happy?
          Can you get anymore inane? People like you make me wish I was a dentist.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wiglaf
            Can you get anymore inane? People like you make me wish I was a dentist.
            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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            • #7
              The EPA held a public hearing in May and has promised a decision by the end of the year. But McLear said the state has run out of patience and will go to court Wednesday, the deadline that Schwarzenegger set in April when he served notice of an intent to sue if the EPA didn't act within 180 days.
              Feds promise a decision by the end of the year = December.
              Cali wants it in 180 days from April = October.
              Court hearing in November.

              In the words of that great political commentator, Bugs Bunny, "What's all the hubbub...Bub?"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wiglaf
                What a brilliant thread title. Do you even try to read articles you post?
                It's called poetic license. Suck it if you don't like it.
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                • #9
                  Arnold isn't a real republican. Just in name only.

                  But that said, he's the only republican I think is halfway decent.

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                  • #10
                    Doesn't CA get some leeway given that it's equivalent to the EPA was founded before the EPA?
                    If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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                    • #11
                      Yes. California's CalEPA predates the fed's EPA so they are the only state which gets to set its own standards. Other states get to chose to adopt either the Federal standard or the California standard. I believe something like a dozen states making up around 40% of the cars sold in the US have adopted California's standard which includes green house gas output limits per mile driven.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dis
                        Arnold isn't a real republican. Just in name only.

                        But that said, he's the only republican I think is halfway decent.
                        A real hard core right wing Republican couldn't win an election in California so the Republicans out here tend to be more centrists. They're pro-choice and pro-environmental regulation; positions which the national party would never accept.
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                        • #13
                          Arnie>Bush.

                          Arnold

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                          • #14
                            Arnie fighting evil. On several levels.

                            But where did Bush get into this?
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                            • #15
                              Actually, I guess it will be the State of California v. Stephen Johnson.

                              Stephen Johnson is the EPA Administrator appointed by Bush.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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