Failure to Pay a Prostitute: Rape or Theft?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by rah

And I think if I break into someone's house and steal illegal drugs, it's still considered theft.

I'd love to see that cite.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by rah
Yes, look back in history and see that many mafia or gang members are taken down for tax evasion on illegal activities and not those illegal activities.

And I think if I break into someone's house and steal illegal drugs, it's still considered theft.

Believe some one, whats his name, from the mid west, dang, old Elliot Ness tracked him, I do believe he was a two bit hood or something, anyhoo, tax evasion took him out

[Wezil]

..actually syphilis took him out, but who's quibbling?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Wezil
..actually syphilis took him out, but who's quibbling?

umm, after Ness put him away

Untouchables was ana musing take on it,

Baseball, an individuals time to achive indivual contribution to a teams effort

~thwack~

[Adagio]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Who are they going to call?

That has happened. One with some illegal drugs called the police because some other guy had stolen some of it. The one calling the police was taken because he had drugs and IIRC the other guy was taken both because of the drugs and because he stole it


It probably doesn't happen often, but it does happen

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Omni Rex Draconis
Legally, I don't think it is rape or theft. As was pointed out, she consented to have sex (no rape), but the contract was criminal so cannot be enforced (no theft).

Morally, it was obviously theft with a whiff of rape - especially if he knew he wasn't going to pay her beforehand.

err you show a Canadian flag-- you do realize that in Canada, there is no law against prostitution itself so here, the contract of sex for money would not be illegal

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Flubber



err you show a Canadian flag-- you do realize that in Canada, there is no law against prostitution itself so here, the contract of sex for money would not be illegal

All legal discussions at Poly take on the US context unless stated otherwise....

edit: Flubber - Do you Know a Cdn case where a situation such as this was successfully prosecuted as theft?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Wezil




edit: Flubber - Do you Know a Cdn case where a situation such as this was successfully prosecuted as theft?

NO-- I think that parties tend not to involve police much in their dealings-- Although there is no law against the prostitution itself, you and I are both aware that there are a number of laws around the byproducts or ancillary parts of prostitution such that people don't want legal scrutiny

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Wezil


All legal discussions at Poly take on the US context unless stated otherwise....

Sure-- but I just wanted to point out the distinction here

[Alinestra Covelia]

Originally posted by Wezil


I've seen Clerks.

I've seen porn for guys.

On a marginally related note, any "snowball" flavor would be doubly suspicious, given the "Tastykake" label.

I wonder if "Tastykake" is pronounced "Tasty-kah-kay"?

[Wezil]

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia


I've seen porn for guys.

On a marginally related note, any "snowball" flavor would be doubly suspicious, given the "Tastykake" label.

I wonder if "Tastykake" is pronounced "Tasty-kah-kay"?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't think it's either. Why the hell don't prostitutes get paid up front?

I thought they did. At least in legal places I've b... I mean I know of friends who have been to, they pay up front.

So in that case, if he doesn't pay up front and proceeds to do the act, he's raping her. So if you look at it from the paying up front perspective, it's rape.

paying after seems more shaky on principle. She is agreeing to it. Just like a woman technically shouldn't be able to change her mind after a normal encounter and cry rape (though they often do once they wake up in the morning ); so a prostitute shouldn't be able to change her mind about agreeing to sex. It would be more like robbery.

So the paying up front scenario is rape, the paying after is robbery. Although it shouldn't make a difference.

[Grandpa Troll]

So there is no such thing as a barter system then :desire:

[Alinestra Covelia]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
So there is no such thing as a barter system then :desire:

Actually, now that you mention it... Brunching Shuttlecocks tried to get an Oral Sex barter system up and running, but too many of the people who signed up were overweight dudes.

It's here:

http://www.brunching.com/oralsexdonation.html

(Worksafe site, though juvenile.)