Bush drops the World War III bomb (and calls Russians mazochists at the same time)

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Patroklos
So what other potential nuclear nation has a public policy of "wiping" another nation of the map? Not even interested in conquest, straight to obliteration.

Isn't Iran sort of obligated to nuke Isreal now if they have the ability

*sigh*

Disclaimer: Iran's President is a bad, bad man.

Please don't use quotation marks when you're not actually quoting something. Ahmawhatshisface never literally said this.

That line is a purposeful mistranslation of what he actually said, which was something along the lines of, "Israel shouldn't exist as a political entity." While that's still not the friendliest thing to say, he was not suggesting that the country be obliterated with nuclear weapons.

[Seeker]

The Presidency is a 'head-of-state' presidency in Iran isn't it? Or is it a unitary executive? I thought that the president of Iran didn't actually have all that much power in Iran.

The 'wiped off the map' thing:

1.I've heard that could've been mistranslated.
2.The Russkis said much worse things and there was no rush to bomb them. 'We will bury you' anyone? Heck, the North Koreans threaten such things annually about the terrible tewwible things they will do.
3. The Islamic Republic has been around a long time now. They've been chanting Death to America and Death to Israel for decades. It's what they do. It's like Republicans claiming that they'll enforce 'family values' if you elect 'em, it's playing to the base.

They are years away from nukes and delivery systems. The North Koreans, at tremendous cost to themselves, got maybe a half dozen. It's sure helping them. The sky sure fell. About the only thing that changed was that the idea of 'pre-emptive' invasion of the NKs kinda disappeared...

So if the rhetoric is the same, and the nuclear threat is way overblown, what has changed...............?

The Giulianis' and Podhoretzs' of America subverted the will of the people to fuel their own small-penis compensation empires, and a 'hardcore' of 25-30% of Americans are such authority worshipping "Giancarlos" and "Wiglafs"that they enabled and continue to enable them no matter what.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lancer
What exact points in what Bush said do you folks disagree with and why?

He practically calls Putin a dictator, but he's practically dictator of the world.

[Patroklos]

[Spec]

He's right, btw.

Hey! I agree with Kid!!

Theres a first to everything I guess.

Spec.

[Patroklos]

OMFG TEH BUSH IS EMPEROR OF WORLD!!!!$%&#$$%^

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

[Wezil]

He takes after Nero.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Patroklos
OMFG TEH BUSH IS EMPEROR OF WORLD!!!!$%&#$$%^

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!

There's a reason why you guys sail around in boats all over the world.

[Slade Wilson]

What a lot of crap about bush's statement, since when is the idea that WW3 could start out of this been a new idea?

Somehow, because bush mentioned the inevitable WW3, he is irresponsible and infact is causing WW3....bush is an idiot, that doesnt make everything he says bad.

[Spec]

Yes, it does.



Spec.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Lorizael


*sigh*

Disclaimer: Iran's President is a bad, bad man.

Please don't use quotation marks when you're not actually quoting something. Ahmawhatshisface never literally said this.

That line is a purposeful mistranslation of what he actually said, which was something along the lines of, "Israel shouldn't exist as a political entity." While that's still not the friendliest thing to say, he was not suggesting that the country be obliterated with nuclear weapons.

QFT.

People who use that quote in such a way lose a whole lot of credibility.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Lorizael
That line is a purposeful mistranslation

Was it?

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Was it?

In the article you quote, the author himself states that the "wiped off the map" translation may be a little "free," and the Cole guy responds beneath the article giving a more precise translation - "[The regime] must vanish from the page of time."

[DinoDoc]

The article I quoted was written saying that teh Cole guy was playing fast and loose with the facts and had convincing evidence as well. So I wouldn't use his statement as evidence.

[Lorizael]

Cole's response is that Hitchens is being fast and loose with facts as well.

Mr. Hitchens has quoted my unpublished email without permission, which is bad enough. But worst of all, he has done so incompletely and so given an inaccurate impression of the discussions in which I was engaged. Since he wishes to make that discussion public before I was ready to do so, I am helpfully sending along the final message in the exchange.

Mr. Hitchens asks why I did not cite other parts of the Ahmadinejad speech. The answer is that I was only talking about the one phrase in this discussion, and was unfortunately not taking direction from Mr. Hitchens on how to read Persian texts.