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  • #16
    "but who has since led his country in steadily more authoritarian directions "

    Damn! How dare someone pre-empt my comment!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by MarkG
      well according to the Pravda, Sarkozy is a dictator admirer
      The visit to Moscow has exerted a great influence on the French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Sarkozy¢s attitude to Russia has changed for the better after the official meeting with President Putin.

      Sarkozy said that he admired Putin¢s courage, intellect and his view and understanding of the modern world. The two presidents discussed such questions as the nuclear program of Iran, the status of Kosovo, human rights issues in Russia and the assassination of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya, The Times reports.

      http://english.pravda.ru/russia/krem...8517-sarkozy-0
      That´s why France is on the secret expanded Axis of Evil, as well as germany and russia
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      • #18
        ah the long awaited Axis of Evil: Secret expansion pack
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        • #19
          More like - Cold War II: Back to the Brink?
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          • #20
            Wow, just wow at the stupidity of that statement. How the heck do you start dropping WWIII casually in like it's a problem others might create unilaterally?

            THis is the equivalent of "if Iran gets nukes, we might have to start a new world war". THat's not an observation, that's definitely aggressive statement. Not that it's exactly what he means or meant, but that how it comes around.

            Dubya should prepare his leave for the next president and not make any more blunders. It's like ... I mean woaah, that's straight from the wacko level of talk. Do you guys still wonder why many people consider US as the biggest threat to the security? That's not because people are afraid of Americans, they're afraid of this guy, he is absolutely nuts!
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            • #21
              some will argue that this is all diplomacy
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              • #22
                Yeah well, he prolly would claim that these kinds of measures are about influencing things and people into the right direction. Then again this same guy has actually lost power and influence while using it. So, I don't know how his strategical thinking works, I think it just doesn't.
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                • #23
                  So what other potential nuclear nation has a public policy of "wiping" another nation of the map? Not even interested in conquest, straight to obliteration.

                  Isn't Iran sort of obligated to nuke Isreal now if they have the ability
                  "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                  • #24
                    Bush is right; and Mark, you're an idiot sometimes.
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                    • #25
                      What exact points in what Bush said do you folks disagree with and why?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                        But we're already in WWIII. Hello, Global War on Terrorism anybody?
                        Was WWII a Global War on Blitzkrieg?
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                        • #27
                          Uhmmm, why is he right? He is right if you are threatning Iran with a World War.

                          Even if it is passively right, the point if giving speeches like that is idiotic. International relations, diplomacy, things like that. Might not mean much to everyone, but hey, then again we can't all suck at making tons of enemies and alienate friends. Right?
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                          • #28
                            A deranged Iran with nukes is a positive thing?
                            Head in the sand way of dealing with things doesn't work forever.
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                            • #29
                              Iran's regime is no threat to use nuclear weapons. At all. Any attempts to portray them as "deranged" is fearmongering.
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                              • #30
                                Bush is a freakin dumb ****.

                                What he's saying makes no sense what so ever.

                                First off, Iran has never been in a war except vs Iraq, its a peacful country, more peaceful than the US anyhow.

                                Also, if you look at military spending, why the hell is the US afraid of Iran?!?! They spend 4.1 billion$ a year on military only. Canada spends 10.5 billion $, and you're not afraid of us.
                                Iran whats nuclear power for energy/electricity, nothing more.

                                There is no goal in nuking someone if you cant do anything to prevent the after shock, an we all know Iran cant.

                                Why is the US never scared of the right nations?

                                Country - $ in billions - % of the world exp. - rank

                                United States 420.7 43% 1
                                China * 62.5 6% 2
                                Russia * 61.9 6% 3
                                United Kingdom 51.1 5% 4
                                Japan 44.7 4% 5
                                France 41.6 4% 6
                                Germany 30.2 3% 7
                                India 22 2% 8
                                Saudi Arabia 21.3 2% 9
                                South Korea 20.7 2% 10
                                Italy 17.2 2% 11
                                Australia 13.2 1% 12
                                Brazil 13.1 1% 13
                                Canada 10.9 1% 14
                                Turkey 9.8 1% 15
                                Israel* 9.7 1% 16
                                Netherlands 9.7 1% 17
                                Spain 8.8 1% 18
                                Taiwan 8.3 1% 19
                                Indonesia* 7.6 1% 20
                                Myanmar 6.9 1% 21
                                Ukraine* 6 1% 22
                                Singapore 5.6 1% 23
                                Sweden 5.6 1% 24
                                North Korea* 5.5 1% 25
                                Poland 5.2 0% 26
                                Iran 4.9 1% 27
                                Norway 4.7 0% 28
                                Greece* 4.5 0% 29
                                Kuwait 4.3 0% 30
                                Colombia* 3.9 0% 31
                                Switzerland 3.8 0% 32
                                Pakistan 3.7 0% 33
                                Vietnam 3.5 0% 34
                                Belgium 3.4 0% 35



                                Seriously Sloww, you really beleive Bush is right? Why the **** do YOU guys need to spend 460 billion $ a year on military when the closest country spends 60 billion? And its funny how it all started when bush came in....



                                US and world military spending and budgets are very high, almost back to Cold War levels.


                                Spec.
                                Last edited by Spec; October 18, 2007, 08:31.
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