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Come on Lancer. Where's your collective guilt? 
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Indians weren't innocent either. What you're crying about is simply a war someone lost. Too bad. They should have been friendly and instead they chose the path of war. Shouldn't do that when your weapons are bows and arrows. That's stupid. They could have avoided it but they didn't want any "pale faces" sharing their lands, they thought few tribes should have all of NA to themselves. People often confuse that they didn't have the concept of land ownership, but they were bastards alright. What happened was right, we can't have them sneaking up on us during the night with their axes and knives. But you know what the people with guns knew? They knew the price is right. They knew that to get peace of mind and dominate these axe and knife people out, there would probably be few weak voices after few hundred years crying about it, but it's worth it. They were right and your voice is weak.
About Israel and Palestine, hey, it's a conflict. What do you want? Cry that some people choose Israel's side? Too bad people can do that, choose sides instead of being forced to root your side, that's how things work. DOn't like it? Move to North Korea, you racist nazi.
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What is the ratio of Indians killed by musket balls to disease?
And how could those epidemics have ever be avoided?"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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The epidemics could have been avoided if Indians had lived in close quarters with their food beasts. Or so one theory goes...Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Hmm......Originally posted by Seeker
Oh...that's right...there's this whole weird thing these days about not just invading and conquering other peoples...that whole 'Western Civilization'* thing.
I think that Indians may have come up with a similar concept something like, I dunno, 2000+ years ago?
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Do Buffalo eat bubonic plague?The epidemics could have been avoided if Indians had lived in close quarters with their food beasts. Or so one theory goes..."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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If that was true, why are they still a backwards people with glaring inferiority complexes?Originally posted by aneeshm
Hmm......
I think that Indians may have come up with a similar concept something like, I dunno, 2000+ years ago?
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Sh*t happens throughout history my friend and Israel and America aren't the only ones. You think that all the land Russia controls now was just magically given to them by a fairy? How about Australia? Canada?Comment
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Because the time for such an idea had not come.Originally posted by Asher
If that was true, why are they still a backwards people with glaring inferiority complexes?
And because Buddhism turned us into peacenik hippies.
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I'm confused. I'm european, so half of the day I'm being a liberal pansy who can't defend their own region even, the other half I'm a brutal murderous conquerer.
Which one is it? I DEMAND TO KNOW SO I CAN BEHAVE ACCORDINGLY!In da butt.
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What type of European are you? If you're German then you are a brutal murderous conqueror but if you are say, Dutch then you are a liberal pansy. I'm guessing from your username that you are Finnish. That would just make you a drunkard.Originally posted by Pekka
I'm confused. I'm european, so half of the day I'm being a liberal pansy who can't defend their own region even, the other half I'm a brutal murderous conquerer.
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That solves everything. Damn it. And you're right as well. Thanks
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Imran and Lorizael nailed it. We (those of us here) know our history. And while many other Americans might not, "this won't be published in the West" is bull****. It's brought up constantly.
1. Genocide? edit: oh, perhaps this refers back to the Native Americans. I initially read it as genocide of Africans. If it refers to the NA's, see point 3. It cannot be undone.The American genocide and enslavement of African people likewise has been insufficiently recognized, criticized, or corrected
2. Enslavement, certainly. Americans, of course, purchased a whole lot of slaves, mostly IIRC from other people, who often bought the slaves from other Africans. No big attack post on that, though, eh?
3. There is no "fixing" what was done. As such, it will forever be "insufficiently corrected." The people involved in the American slave trade are all dead. Every last one of 'em, for hundreds of years now. The detrimental impact on our society survives and haunts us to this day.
The bit about ingrained racism in Israel and the USA has some basis, but is overblown. Way to assert that Israeli society is monolithic. Read Ha'aretz once and a while. You might be surprised.
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Great, another ********I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
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