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Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
and resent philosophers for disagreeing.
and resent philosophers for disagreeing.
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AKA, being wrong.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Asher, I think you have made quite a breakthrough here ... you believe everything is 1/0 right/wrong, and therefore there is only your opinion and nobody else can be right except where they agree with you
Guess that makes me a lousy computer programmer though (that I think other people occasionally can be right)
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The real world is not binary.
Within our heads we build a map of the world outside which may or may not correspond to the real one that is out there. The map is not the territory, though, so I believe that instead of assigning binary 0s and 1s to things, a probability (which may approach 0 or 1) is a more honest assessment. Our maps are based on the incoming data, which may or may not be reliable for a myriad of reasons, and therefore we cannot reasonably assume that our maps are entirely accurate. In some cases we can have near-certainty, in others not.
Will the sun 'rise' tomorrow? - As close to 1 as makes no odds. Perhaps there is a remote chance of the world being destroyed to make way for a hyper-space bypass, but this is unlikely.
Will there be World Peace starting this year for all eternity? As close to 0 as makes no odds.
Are first releases of software generally stable and properly functional? - Probably not.
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Therefore, philosophy is better?Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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Could people please stop ascribing this.. binariness to all of computer science?
I much rather define my natural numbers in unary
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No, philosophy is for understanding the world. Computer Science is for understanding computers.Originally posted by Lorizael
Therefore, philosophy is better?
Though, the logical mindset required for programming (and developed through programming) can be applied to philosophical analysis to enhance it.
There's no reason for the two schools to be at odds, IMHO.Comment
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Bah! How are we supposed to debate things on Apolyton without the illusion that we're all bitter rivals?Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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By being civil, open and objective?
No, that's far to much too ask of Apolyton.Comment
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No way.Originally posted by Asher
The answer to the question is simple: the reason computer scientists have such a low opinion of filosofizers is computer science is binary (1/0, right/wrong) and filosofy is all about shades of gray. Computer Scientists are always right, filosofizers are never right.
I mean, most of the (Indian) philosophy I've come across has been pretty rigorous - those guys were merciless when attacking each other, and a single, tiny, insignificant logical error would allow everyone else to massively pwn you in debate.Comment
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There we go! Ding ding ding.Originally posted by aneeshm
No way.
I mean, most of the (Indian) philosophy I've come across has been pretty rigorous - those guys were merciless when attacking each other, and a single, tiny, insignificant logical error would allow everyone else to massively pwn you in debate.
Filosofers live in the realm of semantics.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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You're assuming you don't live inside a computer simulation.Originally posted by Cort Haus
The real world is not binary.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Computer science is, ironically, not about understanding computers. Common misconception by someone with a filosofical mind.Originally posted by Cort Haus
No, philosophy is for understanding the world. Computer Science is for understanding computers.
Though, the logical mindset required for programming (and developed through programming) can be applied to philosophical analysis to enhance it.
There's no reason for the two schools to be at odds, IMHO."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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A real response is unnecessary here but...Originally posted by Asher
You're assuming you don't live inside a computer simulation.
Whether or not we live in a computer simulation is meaningless because computers are complex machines that can produce results beyond binary.
Edit: Also, what would you say computer science is about, Asher? Information? Logic?Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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I thought the subject of this thread would be:
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Computer Science is applied mathematics.Originally posted by Lorizael
A real response is unnecessary here but...
Whether or not we live in a computer simulation is meaningless because computers are complex machines that can produce results beyond binary.
Edit: Also, what would you say computer science is about, Asher? Information? Logic?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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