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  • #46
    I don't mean to diminish the significance of this event or the feelings of those involved, but I don't think anything has chaged at all. We still fight each other and only care about ourselves. The rich still get richer and the poor still get poorer and Britney Spears's abs are more important then the senseless deaths of millions in the world from violence, famine, or disease.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Lorizael
      Everyone has symptoms of everything
      I don't

      Except for being OCD.
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      AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
      AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
      DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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      • #48
        Heh. For what may be the first time, I agree with Shrapnel.

        9/11 changed a few things, but hardly "everything."

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Arrian
          Heh. For what may be the first time, I agree with Shrapnel.

          9/11 changed a few things, but hardly "everything."

          -Arrian
          Human nature. Like so much. We are carried outside the ordinary, but we adjust, and return to the ordinary. We return to the day to day even after the death a loved one that at first seems to transform our world. We returned to ordinary life after witnessing world war 2, and the shoah.

          The archetype is the exodus, when, after witnessing miracles, when after witnessing directly the "scandal of revelation" the people return to common ways, and long for the fleshpots and idols.

          That is why memory IS so important. To renew, to relive, for a moment, the experience that showed us the inadequacy of the day to day. Or, since there is much positive about the day to day, let me say rather the incompleteness of it.

          That is why, tonight, I will, the year coming round again, celebrate the birthday of the world - and listen to the shofar blasts, with the hope to be shaken by them OUT of the day to day, out of complacency, sout of social injustice and Britteny's abs, out of "September 10th".
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • #50
            Originally posted by lord of the mark
            Human nature. Like so much. We are carried outside the ordinary, but we adjust, and return to the ordinary. We return to the day to day even after the death a loved one that at first seems to transform our world. We returned to ordinary life after witnessing world war 2, and the shoah.

            The archetype is the exodus, when, after witnessing miracles, when after witnessing directly the "scandal of revelation" the people return to common ways, and long for the fleshpots and idols.

            That is why memory IS so important. To renew, to relive, for a moment, the experience that showed us the inadequacy of the day to day. Or, since there is much positive about the day to day, let me say rather the incompleteness of it.

            That is why, tonight, I will, the year coming round again, celebrate the birthday of the world - and listen to the shofar blasts, with the hope to be shaken by them OUT of the day to day, out of complacency, sout of social injustice and Britteny's abs, out of "September 10th".
            Mm.
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            • #51
              I was in a bar in Vilnius, desperately, almost in tears trying to call up the best friend of my mothers, who was with Morgan Stanley at the time, though not really working in their WTC offices (she actually had agreed to meet someone at WTC where their their retail offices were, at 9:00. She missed the appointment because she was visiting her dying (now late) husband in the hospital...). The connection just could not get through. My evil side was agreeing sort of with president Thomas J. Whitmore's "let's nuke the bastards". You find out a lot about yourself when tectonic plates of life move around.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by lord of the mark
                That is why memory IS so important. To renew, to relive, for a moment, the experience that showed us the inadequacy of the day to day. Or, since there is much positive about the day to day, let me say rather the incompleteness of it.
                I've got blisters that mean more than 9-11.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Kidicious
                  When I got to school I turned on the TV and started watching the news. I left the television on all day and let the students watch it. I told them they were watching history, but they were very disinterested.
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                  • #54
                    Yes, I thought it was a huge deal at one time. I have no desire to continue to be so wrong.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kidicious
                      Yes, I thought it was a huge deal at one time. I have no desire to continue to be so wrong.
                      did you ever teach them the difference between disinterested and uninterested?
                      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                      • #56
                        He's disinterested in such idle distinctions. BTW, scratch what I said about dysgraphia. After talking with my mother, I've discovered that

                        A. My dysgraphia is distinct from my AS, and
                        B. Dygraphia doesn't mean what I thought it did.

                        My inability to handwrite for long has nothing to do with dysgraphia in terms of diagnostic criteria; they just noted that I showed a perverse reluctance to use pencil and paper when doing math problems and chalked it up to a mental block (which is what dysgraphia is, it seems). Hey, they told me I had it at age seven, it's understandable that I misheard and never learned otherwise all this time...er, right? Yeah, I still feel pretty stupid.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by lord of the mark


                          did you ever teach them the difference between disinterested and uninterested?
                          I was suppose to teach English. That's what they told me anyway, but I don't recall ever teaching that.

                          Am afraid I don't get your point though.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Kidicious


                            I was suppose to teach English. That's what they told me anyway, but I don't recall ever teaching that.

                            Am afraid I don't get your point though.
                            if the events of 9/11 left them disinterested, that means they viewed them objectively without taking one side or another. If the event left them bored, that would be "uninterested", not disinterested.
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #59
                              I have no more personal connection to 9/11 than I do for the recent tsunami or todays earthquake. I didn't know anyone present and have never been to NYC.

                              That said, I appreciate the tragedy such an event was for those involved and respect their loss.
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by lord of the mark


                                if the events of 9/11 left them disinterested, that means they viewed them objectively without taking one side or another. If the event left them bored, that would be "uninterested", not disinterested.
                                They were uninterested. I thought there might be another point.
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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