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    Just came across this little piece. I never realised just how utterly despicable female genital mutilation was till now. Read on only if you have a strong stomach.

    I'm quoting only selectively. I've left out the partisan or irrelevant bits.


    For males, circumcision is a messy but comparatively trivial operation, whereas for females, clitoridectomy is not only painful beyond belief, but is the equivalent of total castration. All of the women whom I know personally, who have undergone pharaonic circumcision and have been infibulated, say they have never recovered from it - physically or mentally - and of course, they are absolutely incapable of experiencing any sexual pleasure. On the contrary, sex is very painful for them.

    Pharaonic circumcision and infibulation is regarded as the only one hundred percent effective way to safeguard a girl's virginity. Indeed, it is so effective that, for intercourse to take place after marriage, the husband or matron has to defibulate the bride with a knife to pry her open.

    The ghastly screams and shrieks which have terrified so many foreign tourists at night in the vicinity of "Honeymoon" hotels in Port Sudan are emitted by brides being defibulated. A Sudanese journalist commented, "For us they seem perfectly normal, we all know that the first nights of marriage are agony."

    But just what is pharaonic circumcision? I have seen it being done when I was staying as a guest in the home of wealthy Arab friends. A great feast had been prepared to which all female relatives and friends had been invited, and since I was regarded as a guest of honor, I not only had to attend, but was given a ringside seat. The miserable little victim - a beautiful child, incidentally - was grabbed by four women, who threw her upon a sort of pallet on the ground and pinioned her arms and legs. Then the gedda, or specialist, or matron, or whatever you want to call her, kneeled between the little girl's thighs and began the operation by slicing off the clitoris. All of the women present began making the most prodigious din (by ullulations), which they kept up during the whole operation in a futile effort to drown the howls and shrieks of agony of the patient. As soon as the clitoris had been excised, the matron scooped (roughly speaking) it out, then began to pull and tug to extract its roots. Blood gushed left, right and center. This was only an hors d'oeuvre - the next step consisted in shearing off the edges of the inner lips, then carving off the rim of the outer lips, from which the gedda removed a gory ribbon of flesh about 2 centimeters in width. Where the clitoris had once been was a gaping hole from which blood poured. I will spare you a few other details which I would rather not enlarge upon. Finally, the matron stitched up the raw and bleeding flesh, after which she carefully inserted a tiny hollow tube into the lower portion of the vagina, to allow for the passage of urine and menstrual blood. This, so I was subsequently informed, was to remain in place until the scar had formed. The 'operation' had lasted all of twenty minutes. Finally, the patient was bound up with cords from the hips to the knees to prevent her from making any movements which might cause the stitches to burst. For fifteen days, all girls who have been infibulated have to remain motionless, supine, and trussed up like fowls.

    According to Dr, El Sayed Mirghani El Sayed, the very first African doctor to write a thesis on female circumcision, in Africa alone "fifty million or more female children are circumcised every year". In Somalia, all girls between the ages of seven and ten are forced to submit to this barbarous operation, for religious and social reasons. Most Egyptian girls, including those who attend universities, have been infibulated.

    Unfortunately, no one knows how many of the little victims who have been circumcised, die - either immediately due to shock, or a little later due to the infections resulting from this prehistoric butchery. Sometimes, the patients bleed to death; hemorrages which often last for forty-eight hours are frequent occurrences, but generally they succumb to tetanus or gangrene. Whenever a death resulting from circumcision occurs, as Dr. J.G. Taoko reported, it is bruited about that the 'evil eye' was to blame, or else it is rumored that the victim herself was to blame because she had had sexual relations before the ceremony and was 'punished' for her 'crime'.

    It is hardly necessary to describe what happens to all women who have been infibulated when they are on the point of giving birth. The vagina, a mass of scar tissue, is far too narrow to permit the baby to emerge. So what happens? They simply slash her open. Then, of course, later she has to be infibulated all over again. Any husband can force his wife to undergo infibulation ad nauseum. One of my unfortunate friends has been infibulated five times.

    There are, now, very, very few things that can truly move me to anything. But even I was shaken and disgusted by this.




    Who do I post this? Because most people don't actually know what FGM actually is. They usually think in terms of male circumcision, which they consider either normal, or just a minor thing. Whenever this topic will come up next, I'd like people to remember this.

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    I think they qualify for an invasion on a number of grounds now, no?
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    • #3
      Degrees of FGM used to take place in the West as well.

      Female circumcision in the USA

      Clitoridectomy and other circumcision-like operation on girls and women had a longer career in United States, where doctors deplored Baker Brown’s disgrace and The Medical Record defended him with the question "What now will be the chance for recovery for the poor epileptic female with a clitoris?" [11] There was also a vigorous attempt to apply the theories of Lewis Sayre – that many nervous diseases were caused by a tight or non-retractable foreskin – to women, and a number of doctors urged that girls also should have their clitoral hoods excised if there was any suspicion of adhesions of the accumulation of "secretions". In 1892 another defender of Brown (he was "almost on the right track"), Dr Robert Morris, went so far as to suggest that, since 80 per cent of American women suffered from preputial adhesions, all schoolgirls should be inspected to ensure that proper separation between prepuce and clitoris had occurred. He was apparently confident that most of the girls would require surgery, and added: "The separation of adhesive prepuces in young unmarried women should be done by female physicians anyway, and such physicians can be abundantly occupied with this sort of work". [12] It was a valiant effort to expand the market for medical services, and he must have been disappointed that his suggestions were not more widely taken up.

      Even so, articles on the virtues of female circumcision continued to appear sporadically in American medical journals until the 1960s, and there are regular reports of girls or women being subjected to various procedures, particularly the shortening of their labia or clitoris when parents or a husband judged them "too long". As with circumcision of boys, the medical case for female circumcision has always contained a strong element of cultural or aesthetic preference.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eli
        I think they qualify for an invasion on a number of grounds now, no?
        Why? How would that solve anything?

        These are deep-rooted societal problems, and invading won't do anything to solve them.

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        • #5
          in some african countries female circumcision is forbidden by law.
          It takes place nevertheless in many outlying villages, as the state doesn´t have the means to control the large rural areas and the people just do these ceremonies in secrecy.
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          • #6
            Is this a "Look Some Countries Treat Their Women Worse Than In India" thread?
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            • #7
              Re: Female genital mutilation

              Originally posted by aneeshm
              Just came across this little piece. I never realised just how utterly despicable female genital mutilation was till now.
              Good for you


              Who do I post this? Because most people don't actually know what FGM actually is.
              I call bull**** on that one.

              Even if it is far less intrusive then what your article describes, it's still mutilation.
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              • #8
                Old news, but I heard that impovement is under way the last years, with women movements empowering women in the rural areas in order that the women stop the despicable practice.
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                • #9
                  Yeah, it's pretty awful. But I wouldn't say it's relatively unknown. I've certainly read about it.

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                  • #10
                    ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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                    • #11
                      I, too, have read and heard about it before. There was a movie a year or so ago about a woman in some African village sheltering little girls who didn't want to undergo the procedure and being threatened for it. I'm afraid I don't remember the name--I just read a positive review in the paper.
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                      • #12
                        I loved the relativists in my Anthropology class who said we couldn't judge other cultures about this, especially because we Westerners perform circumcisions on men.

                        Sorry, but I can have sex without having to tear open my genitals; I'm okay.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, but circumcised men need lube to masturbate. Or am I listening to too many playground rumours?

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                          • #14
                            Well, I've watched very few other men masturbate in my time... so I might not be a reliable source, but I'm gonna have to go with that being a rumor.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sandman
                              Yeah, but circumcised men need lube to masturbate. Or am I listening to too many playground rumours?
                              Umm... we don't masterbate, because we are acceptable to women.
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