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Originally posted by Arrian
Attacking infidels and expecting the infidels to convert are not one and the same.
Would this be a better quote?
“We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.” - Hussein Massawi, former Hezbollah leader
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In 30 years the ME will be exactly what it was for most of human history. Sand. And they can have all they want.
In the end all of the damage every Islamic extremist has caused to the West is trivial relative. Some very tragic personal stories but as a civilization it is all irrelevant. If we would treat the incidents as a drunk driving level event (which is still out of proportion to effect, drunk driving is far more harmful) like they actually warrant we would all be much happier.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
Originally posted by Patroklos
In the end all of the damage every Islamic extremist has caused to the West is trivial relative. Some very tragic personal stories but as a civilization it is all irrelevant. If we would treat the incidents as a drunk driving level event (which is still out of proportion to effect, drunk driving is far more harmful) like they actually warrant we would all be much happier.
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Would this be a better quote?
“We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you.” - Hussein Massawi, former Hezbollah leader
I have bad news for Mr. Massawi, but our birth rate is much higher then the death rate from terrorist attacks. I bet after all the infidels are dead, he'll be busy emptying the ocean with a teaspoon next.
Honestly, in every metric besides pride and emotion, that would be insignificant too.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
There I'd disagree with you, if the target was one of our major cities. NYC. London.
That would have worldwide impact. Would it bring down our civilization? No, it would not. But it would cause significant disruption - enough to rise above "trivial."
This is a minor quibble - I largely agree with you.
In the end all of the damage every Islamic extremist has caused to the West is trivial relative.
That is because you won against them when they attacked you, when they were strong, and you purged your lands if their influence when you had the chance.
For those of us who lost, however, the consequences have been horrible beyond belief.
African and South-East-Asian countries alienated against themselves, Arabia radicalised and cut off from its own history, Persia exterminated, and India almost completely destroyed.
Originally posted by Patroklos
Some very tragic personal stories but as a civilization it is all irrelevant.
Again, not for those of us who suffered most. We have seen the things we value wantonly, deliberately, calculatedly, and sadistically destroyed for nearly a millennium.
I still do now know whether we will recover. But I am hopeful. After all, we have always recovered in the past, though we have never faced a trauma so massive. And the thing that gives me most hope is that we can build, whereas they can only destroy. One day, they are destine to die.
Originally posted by Patroklos
If we would treat the incidents as a drunk driving level event (which is still out of proportion to effect, drunk driving is far more harmful) like they actually warrant we would all be much happier.
If you would realise the threat that this evil you face is capable of posing, and learn from the history of those not so fortunate in facing it, you would be much more cautious, and much less dismissive.
Originally posted by Patroklos
In 30 years the ME will be exactly what it was for most of human history. Sand. And they can have all they want.
So youre shorting the Tel Aviv stock index?
Or hell, even Rabat?
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
That would have worldwide impact. Would it bring down our civilization? No, it would not. But it would cause significant disruption - enough to rise above "trivial."
Yeah you're right, it would cause a major headache paperwork wise.
I remember when 9/11 happened a lot of people around me were horrified (besided the loss of life) that the took out the WORLD TRADE CENTER. O. M. F. G. What are we going to do without world trade? We were obviously doomed.
I remember the looks of disgust I got when I pointed out "world trade" was not a golden statue they kept locked in a safe, and that all the WTC was was a depsitory for paperwork, all recreatable.
And then when I pointed out that the "World Trade Center" was just a name to help lease office space I think they wanted to hit me.
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
When you see that an apple tree in an orchard is a bad one, do you wait for the fungus to spread until it has spoiled enough to be accounted "non-trivial" in your opinion? Or you you promptly take out that infection, destroy it, and spray fungicide on the rest so as prevent further contamination?
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