God as the ultimate child abuser

[Alexander's Horse]

because he sent his son to die a horrible death for mankind

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/an-iconoclast-gathers-his-heretical-flock/2007/08/15/1186857596819.html

[Pekka]

You know it kind of ... makes little sense. Since his son came out of him and the whole holy trinity thing.. he was basically torturing himself and he knew what would happen. So isn't that really just masochism?

But God is my kind of a guy, I mean... if someone asked me is that really the only way to get a message through? By doing naked mile while getting whipped, and before that mostly just toasting at parties? I'd think about it and say, "Yes, the only way. Maybe more nudity though."

[Elok]

Yeah, keep castrating your church, Anglicans. We'll be more than happy to recruit the ones who get disgusted and leave.

[Alexander's Horse]

one point which I think makes the redemption story rather implausible but atheists hardly ever bring up is, was this the only planet in the whole universe where the sentient beings needed to be redeemed?

If not, did Jesus have to die multiple times around the universe in redemptive acts?

[Elok]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
one point which I think makes the redemption story rather implausible but atheists hardly ever bring up is, was this the only planet in the whole universe where the sentient beings needed to be redeemed?

If not, did Jesus have to die multiple times around the universe in redemptive acts?

And if so, how is it our business?

Oh, and Pekka:

[Kidlicious]

did Jesus have to die multiple times around the universe in redemptive acts?

If he had to die once he had to die an infinite amount of times and he didn't have to die at all. Look it up.

[Pekka]

AH, Well maybe Bible was a manual just for the Earth. Maybe other planets have their own manuals. Maybe there are some planets with such low life forms, that once they develop in the next million years, Jesus has to go there to die once again.

OR maybe that doesn't have to happen in other planets, it's just the way it went down in here.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we went to some planet and found the equivalent of their Bible? That would be crazy. And if we were able to show, that it relates to our Bible, except they have their own timeline, events and some different folks or aliens in it? But they'd obviously be from the same catalog, not just similar but Christian books?

That would be crazy. I'd say, that THEN I would be a bigger believer, even if I didn't see those events unfolding myself. Even though the amount of evidence wouldn't still be much more, I would take that as proof enough.

Would we be jealous? What if their Bible is more advanced, has tons of more stories plus information. What if God gave them the instructions for time machine and endless energy sources? What if they were given vast amounts of technology we won't see for another 5000 years? Would we be jealous about that? Like God, why did they get that stuff and we didn't? YOU SHALL BE STRIKEN FOR YOUR DEADLY SIN OF JEALOUSY! MUAHHAHAHAAH!!

NOooo! I take the toaster and the radio....

TOO LATE! NOTHING IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU HUMANS. I GAVE YOU EVERYTHING AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS WHINE AND CRY ABOUT SOME ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY.

It's ok, really... it was just a hypothetical...

I INVENTED HYPOTHETICAL. NOW DIE!



.... missed me...

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse

If not, did Jesus have to die multiple times around the universe in redemptive acts?

That would make God a serial child abuser

[Pekka]

And maybe the aliens have a direct line to God. Million nodes, always open. Then we find out that God is alien. It's gross but it's true.

Then we'd be chatting with these aliens and they could read our minds so it would be embarrasing because they'd always answer "It is OK, I wouldn't want to have sex with you either, I don't fancy human structures or textures". So we'd ask about God and they'd be like yeah, all those stories are true. There's Christian God and there's Muslim God and all these are real, all these Indian Gods are true as well. But it's the one same God, he just likes to give different people different realities, so we're all living in different realities at the same time, they're all dimensions. You humans didn't get many dimensions figured out now did you? And you locked up all your advanced individuals and labeled them as _crazy_. We happen to appreciate the wise ones.

So now I'm supposed to believe in all them Gods and religions? This is all so confusing.

NO human, it is not confusing. You are merely just one notch up from ant. And were like... million notches up from you.

[Alexander's Horse]

or maybe Jesus appeared in various alien forms, the Dalek Jesus for example

[DanS]

My my. You're a budding scientologist, AH.

I see profit in your future.

[Wiglaf]

Jesus does not answer to you. He came down to EARTH to redeem us, we do NOT KNOW if any other race needed to be saved. JESUS CHRIST get it through your head, stop asking questions that no one can answer.

I don't know the verses by heart that confirms this, you can ask Nikolai for that he knows them all and is dutch.

That is an old example of an argument form, where you challenge people to answer questions that ASSUME they know the answer. Don't assume that...there is no way anyone can know the answer to your dumb question.

Get out of my sight. I refuse to listen to your drivel lest it make me dumber, which I fear it has already done. Maybe you should stop talking.

[LordShiva]

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
stop asking questions that no one can answer.

don't ask if God exists?

[Wiglaf]

You are a fast learner