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    ...discovered now, and it has been given the poetic name TrES-4

    An international team of astronomers has discovered the largest known planet orbiting another star.

    The "transiting" planet - meaning one that passes in front of its parent star as seen from Earth - is about 70% larger than Jupiter.

    But the presumed "gas giant" has a much lower mass than Jupiter - the biggest planet in our Solar System - making it of extremely low density.

    Details of the work are to appear in the Astrophysical Journal.

    The new exoplanet, called TrES-4, is located in the constellation of Hercules and was discovered by a team working on the Transatlantic Exoplanet Survey (TrES).


    We continue to be surprised by how relatively large these giant planets can be
    Francis O'Donovan, Caltech
    TrES-4 circles the star GSC02620-00648, which lies about 1,435 light-years away from Earth. Being only about seven million km (4.5 million miles) from its parent star, the planet is also very hot, about 1,327C (1,600 K; 2,300F).

    Because of the relatively weak pull exerted by TrES-4 on its upper atmosphere, some of the atmosphere probably escapes in a curved comet-like tail.

    "TrES-4 is the largest known exoplanet," said lead author Georgi Mandushev, from the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, US.

    Surprising size

    It is so big, in fact, that its size is difficult to explain using current theories about superheated giant planets.

    "We continue to be surprised by how relatively large these giant planets can be," says Francis O'Donovan, a graduate student in astronomy at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) which operates one of the TrES telescopes.

    "But if we can explain the sizes of these bloated planets in their harsh environments, it may help us better understand our own Solar System planets and their formation."

    Its density of 0.2 grams per cubic centimetre is so low that the planet would, in theory, float on water.

    By definition, a transiting planet passes directly between the Earth and the star, blocking some of the star's light and causing a slight drop in its brightness.

    "TrES-4 blocks off about 1% of the light of the star as it passes in front of it," said Dr Mandushev.

    "With our telescopes and observing techniques, we can measure this tiny drop in the star's brightness and deduce the presence of a planet there."

    Planet TrES-4 makes a complete revolution around its parent star every 3.55 days, so a year on this planet is shorter than a week on Earth.

    The TrES is a network of three 10cm telescopes in Arizona, California and the Canary Islands.

    In order to accurately measure the size of the TrES-4 planet, astronomers used the 0.8m telescope at the Lowell Observatory in Arizona, the 1.2m telescope at the Whipple Observatory, also in Arizona, and the 10m Keck telescope in Hawaii.
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    When they first started finding these bigguns there was speculation that usually gas giants spiral inward, sweeping up whatever inner planets there are until they get really big having absorbed any possible life sustaining worlds and other gas giants. This was an explanation given after several solar systems were found with the giants tucked up close to their star. It also explained the apparent bizarre lifelessness of the known galaxy so far, all very interesting speculation.

    Our gas giants are amazingly well behaved apparently.
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    • #3
      Perhaps it lacks a large, rocky-metalic core. If it is more like a failed brown dwarf, with metallicity closer to the parent star than any regular gas giant, then the density could be much lower. Still, 0.2 is puzzling.
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      • #4
        So compress it until its solid so shlt can live on it and its the size of earth.

        Woohoo....

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        • #5
          the planet is also very hot, about 1,327C (1,600 K; 2,300F).
          Isn't this hot enough for it to be a star??

          Edit: Yeah. I just googled "temperature stars" and came up with this tidbit:

          Hot stars can be as hot as 30,000 °C or more, but the coolest stars are only 1,000 °C.
          This is a small star, not a large planet.

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          • #6
            Well, if Google says so...
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            • #7
              If Google counts on all else, why not this?
              I go with the small star.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lancer


                  Our gas giants are amazingly well behaved apparently.
                  They'd have to be or we wouldn't be here.

                  Large numbers of these 'Hot Jupiters' are being found because they are easy to detect because of their effect on their star. It doesn't mean that our gas giants are remarkable or atypical though..they would just be harder to detect.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zkribbler


                    Isn't this hot enough for it to be a star??

                    Edit: Yeah. I just googled "temperature stars" and came up with this tidbit:



                    This is a small star, not a large planet.
                    It's not even close to the size needed to initiate fusion in it's core. The high temperature is due to orbiting so close to it's star.

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                    • #11
                      Indeed, if it's lighter than Jupiter it's nowhere close.

                      I wonder if it's on its way to being a part of the star? If it's that light it's probably mostly hydrogen, right, even if it's close in to the star?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Odin


                        It's not even close to the size needed to initiate fusion in it's core.
                        Because the coolest stars are around 1,000 C and this planet is 1,300 C, one wonders what the minimum temperature to initiate fusion is.

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                        • #13
                          Density, not temperature. Stars undergo fusion because they are very dense.

                          Think of it this way. You throw a rock into the neighborhood of the sun (say 500,000 km away), it's going to heat up quite warm, probably well over your 1000ºC figure; but it most certainly will not undergo fusion at any point. Just like putting a pan on a flame might heat that pan up close to the temperature of the flame, and well over the 451ºF necessary to combust paper, yet it will not set the pan on fire (hopefully )
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                          • #14
                            OMG! I'm going to undergo fusion!
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                            • #15
                              The sun for example is 2x10^30 kg in mass, and Jupiter is 2x10^27 kg in mass. The above planet is somewhere around 0.84 Jupiters, so a bit less than 0.001 solar masses.

                              According to wiki, the minimum mass for a pure hydrogen planet to ignite (fusion) is 0.01 solar masses, so about 10x as big as this planet (if it's pure hydrogen, no idea). I don't know if it would require a specific density as well or if that would happen naturally over time.

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