Did Russia just bomb Georgia?

[Patroklos]

Bah, we know this is false becasue all the Russian bombers were busy doing this.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=169098

[Serb]

Originally posted by BeBro
Sure. Just when they really want to deal some damage, using exploding bombs would not be a bad idea.

BTW, one of our tabloids had yrs ago a story that some Russian mafia guys have stolen a herd of cows and transported them by air in an Antonov transport plane. According to the story in flight something went wrong, and they had to open the aft cargo bay doors (those which are also used for para drops etc.) and throw the cows out over the Pacific, where one of the cows hit and sunk a Japanese fisher boat. I doubt the story was actually true, but it was funny to imagine the "cow-bombs"....

It's a fake. Actually it's an episode from the Russian comedy movie.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Darius871
Just another remnant of the globe's most incompetent military in the past, present, and future.

WTF? Did he say anything about the US Army?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Elok

2. I did not know we purchased Russian arms (except for those AK-47s we misplaced in Iraq). It does not matter, since I never claimed our own administration was competent. Beware the et tu quoque fallacy...

You did.
Just a couple of examples: F-35 is a copy/paste of Soviet Yak-141, designers of PATRIOT used S-300 technology illegaly purchased from Russia in 90's, NASA uses Russian engines, etc. You've stolen a lot of Russian technology when we were an Eltsin's anarchy.

3. I meant to attack not the Russian arms industry but the Russian Armed Forces, which are regularly cited as the biggest fustercluck in the industrialized world. I suppose I was inaccurate.

Any time, any place (c).
You suckers.

4. What Arrian and Alva said. And Bush isn't a dictator, he's an overgrown toddler throwing a constitutional-rights-destroying hissy-fit at people who contradict or oppose him. I believe his intentions are basically good, he's just pig-headed and silly.

Sure, it's Putin who invades independent countries, thus breaking fundamental internatinal laws at will, not Bush.

5. You aren't Serb, are you? Just asking.

Nope, he is not. But anyway, in this kingdom of anti-Russian idiotism, he is doing a fine anti-brainwashing job.

Have a nice day in your fantasy world.

[Arrian]

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Serb
WTF? Did he say anything about the US Army?

Couldn't you have come up with something better than "I know you are but what am I?"

[Ellestar]

Originally posted by Elok
1. Since when is India our "closest ally?" Unless by that you mean "chief supplier of math and physics professors," I think you are in fact mistaken.


2. I did not know we purchased Russian arms (except for those AK-47s we misplaced in Iraq). It does not matter, since I never claimed our own administration was competent. Beware the et tu quoque fallacy...

So, you aren't from Bhutan as your flag suggests? Well, i expected that but my post is still valid anyway - you should do some research before impersonating someone from another country

Originally posted by Elok 3. I meant to attack not the Russian arms industry but the Russian Armed Forces, which are regularly cited as the biggest fustercluck in the industrialized world. I suppose I was inaccurate.

LOL. Considering that Russian army beaten several undefeated armies (like French or German) and it was able to conquer Europe in late 1970th - early 1980th (keywords for you: "window of opportunity" ICBM Satan and the situation on the German front before the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe), your ignorant opinion hardly matters.

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I thought India was Russia's historical ally, not the US's. Hence the reason we're closer to Pakistan then them.

Well, IMHO India is close to both, it's probably the best case of a neutral country among the powerful ones. But i talked about Bhutan, not US.

[Ellestar]

Originally posted by alva

He has what, just a mere 80%-85% domestic support - an obvious dictator who opresses it's people

As Arrian said, you really aren't going to use that to present your case, are you? With a war going on or a marriage or something, a politician might get a very short spike and lift his or her ratings to such a high level but when it remains there, eyebrows will get raised.
Did Bush even hit 85% the days after 9/11?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin

Domestic Support and Criticism

While having widespread public support in Russia, Putin also has many critics.

While many reforms made in modern Russia under Putin’s rule have been generally criticized by Western media and some American politicians as antidemocratic [82], a joint poll by World Public Opinion in the U. S. and Levada Center Russia around June-July 2006 stated that "neither the Russian nor the American publics are convinced Russia is headed in an anti-democratic direction" and "Russians generally support Putin’s concentration of political power and strongly support the re-nationalization of Russia’s oil and gas industry" [83] Russians generally support reforms initiated by Putin's team.[84]

According to public opinion surveys conducted by Levada Center, Putin's approval rating was 81% in June 2007, and the highest of any leader in the world. [85] His popularity rose from 31% in August 1999 to 80% in November 1999 and since then it has never fallen below 65%.[86]

So, 65%+ for almost 8 years straight. Hardly a short spike. And there is a simple explanation - he does what people want, isn't it a democracy? It may have been done better in an ideal world, but it's good enough for Russia as it is.

And my case is what exactly? If it's that you're all brainwashed about Russia and Putin, then sure. After all, i read western press too, i see it with my own eyes.

[alva]

[Elok]

Oh, I see. I'd forgotten I even had the Bhutanese flag, I just chose it because I thought it looked cool. The flag doesn't always mean something, FYI; there are a lot of wiseasses around here that use the DPRK flag, for example.

WRT the screwiness of the Russian army, I'm too lazy to look up examples but it's well-known that lots of your officers, in addition to being drunkards, regularly abuse their subordinates. There used to be a different Corruption-in-the-Russian-Army story every couple of days--then it got to be old news, I guess, since we stopped seeing them. Maybe you haven't been following the Western Media that closely, or that long. At least U.S. soldiers only torture the enemy...

I will admit that the Russian army was quite effective, as you said, in the late seventies and early eighties, shortly before I was born. On a related note, you guys would have lost WWII without our help.

[LordShiva]

Teh Indo-Bhutan alliance