Er, how does that contradict, or even add to what I said?
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Yep, you recall incorrectly. The law allows surveillance of any communication that Gonzo "reasonably believes" involves "foreign intelligence." Which is why the kucis of the world should read a paper before whining about people like me."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
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Originally posted by Ramo
Yep, you recall incorrectly. The law allows surveillance of any communication that Gonzo "reasonably believes" involves "foreign intelligence." Which is why the kucis of the world should read a paper before whining about people like me.
(And wow, you're prickly. Defensive, even?)
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Er, how does that contradict, or even add to what I said?“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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here's a hint, Ramo and IS:
i.e. the law was marketed as fixing that problem (which is a problem, and obviously acceptable), but some people claim it does more than that.
Now, I'm not going to read the whole law (I don't care nearly enough), and I don't especially trust either side to tell me what it actually says without major spin, but the article in the OP does support my assertion that the bill was supposed to fix the difficulty of wiretapping entirely foreign conversations that pass through the US.
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Reread my post a few dozen times until it all sinks in, IS.
Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Anyway, IIRC this is about our ability to tap conversations between two people on foreign soil which happen to pass through the US. Which is obviously something we should be doing. So Ramos of the world, quit whining“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker
here's a hint, Ramo and IS:
i.e. the law was marketed as fixing that problem (which is a problem, and obviously acceptable), but some people claim it does more than that.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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I have no idea what your original post is supposed to mean then. No one disagreed with updating FISA to accommodate changes in technology wrt foreign communications. There was alternative Dem legislation to that effect that was abandoned due to a veto threat."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
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Originally posted by Ramo
I have no idea what your original post is supposed to mean then. No one disagreed with updating FISA. There was alternative Dem legislation to that effect that was abandoned due to a veto threat.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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