Life in Prison for being Homeless

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
NYE, Im not trying to debate whether the sex criminal registration is a good idea or not. Maybe its ineffective. Maybe its not, thats an empirical question Im not in a position to answer. (I do think that applying to all sex offenders, what the folks who want the law assume applies to child molestors or rapists only, is another big issue) Its surely not intrinsically the same thing as imprisoning a person for being homeless.

The efforts to brand people for life, and to unreasonably restrict thier prospects once they pay their time for their crime(s) are intrinsically the same. It is unjust and tyrannical.

I was just trying to clarify why it has that effect. It does seem to me that there must be many registered sex offenders in Georgia, all but 15 of whom manage to find homes under the law. Now maybe the geography of Augusta makes that city exceptional. Quite possible. Though 15 sounds low for even the number of registered sex offenders in Augusta alone.

The effect is a foreseeable consequence when it becomes acceptable to reimplement the scarlet letter as a matter of public policy.

It has happened, and it will continue to happen so long as legislators feel our criminal justice systems are not enough, and our courts stand by and watch the keystone copper follies in our legislatures.

I say our, because Canadians have picked up the bad habit. We've had AGs proclaim that they have banned citizens from living in entire provinces.

[notyoueither]

Incidently, why stop with kiddie fiddlers?

I want to know if my neighbour killed his wife at some point in the past. It could have an influence on what I do when I hear a fight over there.

I want to know if the guy running the store was ever convicted of any sort of theft or fraud.

I want to know if the guy my daughter is starting to date was ever convicted of a DUI. Wait, don't stop there. I want to know if he's ever had a 24 hour suspension, or was ever questioned by the police in any matter involving a sexual crime. I don't care if he was guilty, or even a suspect. I just want to know!

And I want it all on a website that I can search any time, damnit!

[DaShi]

Join the Bush cabinet.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
So they care more about Augusta than Atlanta?

Atlanta is a far more liberal town. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were more homeless shelters in Atlanta that accept sex offenders.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by DaShi
Join the Bush cabinet.

That thought had escaped me.

[RGBVideo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[q=Shrapnel12]Nobody (except whacko liberals it seems) can tolerate a sex offender. They are sicko's who can't be cured and don't belong in society anymore, yet we just let them lose.[/q]

So, let's get this straight. A guy who is a "sex offender" because he was 20, while his girlfriend was 17, "can't be cured and [doesn't] belong in society anymore"? Really?

And yes, those type of folks are labeled sex offenders if the age of consent law is that sloppy.

I'm disappointed to see that our resident sex offender of Apolyton (whom I think was korn469, but am not so sure anymore) hasn't arrived to this thread. I remember how he told his story in another thread: he had sex with a girl who was more than willing when he was 18 and she 16 or something equally ridiculous, and got into serious trouble for years because of that.

[Shrapnel12]

Originally posted by notyoueither


The efforts to brand people for life, and to unreasonably restrict thier prospects once they pay their time for their crime(s) are intrinsically the same. It is unjust and tyrannical.

This is true, but when it's a person who commited a grieveous crime against a child, or a violent rapist, or murderer who got off too light, I just don't care.

[BeBMan]

I say we lock up everyone just to be sure.

[Kataphraktoi]

This is true, but when it's a person who commited a grieveous crime against a child, or a violent rapist, or murderer who got off too light, I just don't care.

So you know its unjust and wrong, but you want it done anyway?
Having this treatment of people accepted is just opening the door to other groups of people being treated the same

[East Street Trader]

Well put, Kataphraktoi.

There is a scene in A Man For All Seasons which made a big impression on me. More faces his son-in-law, Roper, who is a passionate man urging the confrontation of evil. More asks him whether, in order to get at the devil, he would cut down all that forest of laws standing in his way. Roper says that of course he would.

Whereupon More asks him what he then would do when the last law fell and the devil in all his power turned and confronted Roper, nothing left standing between them?

Getting no answer he says to his son-in-law that irritating as the forest of laws may appear they should be tolerated and cherished - the protection they afford us is an enormously valuable thing.

[Lancer]

screw that, hang em high!

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Boo Hoo, I suggest not molsesting children in the first place.

Leaving alone how you feel about child molesters, keep in mind that sex offences include indecent exposure, sexual harrassment, date rape, and often consensual oral and anal between teenagers.

[DinoDoc]

You'd have had a stronger case without including rapists in your sex offenders are people too spiel.

[Shrapnel12]

Originally posted by Kataphraktoi


So you know its unjust and wrong, but you want it done anyway?
Having this treatment of people accepted is just opening the door to other groups of people being treated the same

I never said I wanted it done. I just said I don't care. Just like when mobster or gangsters kill each other. Good riddance, but it should still be against the law and the guilty parties prosecuted. As a whole, injustice must be fixed, but as for these particular victims, I shed no tears.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Kataphraktoi


So you know its unjust and wrong, but you want it done anyway?
Having this treatment of people accepted is just opening the door to other groups of people being treated the same

unjust =! wrong

to put it better, justice before the law != ethical justice

JM