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    MoD confirms £3.8bn carrier order
    Orders for two new Royal Navy aircraft carriers have been confirmed by Defence Secretary Des Browne.

    He said the £3.8bn contract would lead to the construction of the largest vessels ever sailed by the Royal Navy.

    The new 65,000-tonne carriers - HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales - will enter service in 2014 and 2016.

    Mr Browne said the work would support and create 10,000 jobs across the UK, including those at yards on the Clyde, Rosyth, Portsmouth and Barrow.

    The contract was described as a "major project" for the shipbuilding industry by Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

    The carriers represent a step-change in our capabilities, enabling us to deliver increased strategic effect and influence around the world at a time and place of our choosing
    Des Browne
    Defence Secretary

    The work will be shared among a number of companies, including BAE Systems' Govan and Scotstoun yards in Glasgow, which employ 3,000 people.

    The ships will be built in sections and then assembled at the Rosyth Naval Base in Fife.

    Making the announcement, Mr Browne said the carriers would "provide our front-line forces with the modern, world class capabilities they will need over the coming decades".

    "The carriers represent a step-change in our capabilities, enabling us to deliver increased strategic effect and influence around the world at a time and place of our choosing."

    However, he said the carriers could not be built without a change in the maritime sector.

    "I am pleased that VT Group and BAE Systems intend to form a joint venture in naval shipbuilding and support," said Mr Browne.

    "The creation of such a joint venture will enable the Royal Navy to work with the industry to deliver the infrastructure the navy will need to support the fleet in the future while retaining all three of our existing naval bases at Portsmouth, Devonport and Faslane.

    "This will be good news for the three communities."

    However, he warned there would be "some reductions" in the 17,800 personnel currently employed at the bases.

    The Ministry of Defence said about 40% of the carriers work would be carried out by the joint venture between BAE Systems and VT Group - 15% in Portsmouth and 25% in Glasgow.

    Thales and Babcock will each have 16% of the contract, while the remaining 28% will be carried out by BAE Systems at Barrow and by its Integrated System Technologies (Insyte) division, based in Surrey.

    Shadow Defence Secretary Liam Fox welcomed the announcement but said it came at "a high price" for the navy.

    This is an absolutely wonderful and brilliant day for the city
    Gerald Vernon-Jackson
    Portsmouth City Council leader

    "Since 1997, the Royal Navy has faced significant cuts in force levels completely at odds with the government's own strategic defence review which called for 32 surface combatants," he said.

    "We welcome the retention of three of our existing naval bases, but there will be a strong suspicion that we are not being told the full story today."

    Liberal Democrat defence spokesman Willie Rennie said: "I am sure the communities of the three navy bases will welcome the decision but will perhaps wait with trepidation about the potential losses in jobs."

    Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond said he was pleased that the announcement would safeguard thousands of Scottish jobs.

    Councillor Gerald Vernon-Jackson, the leader of Portsmouth City Council, said it would have "ripped the soul out of the city" if the navy had pulled out.

    He said: "This is an absolutely wonderful and brilliant day for the city and for the campaign we have waged to try to make sure we keep the navy base here in Portsmouth.

    "The presumption last August when the review was launched was that Portsmouth would close but we have been able to turn that around completely so that Portsmouth remains the home of the navy."
    I hate to say it, but French Participation is probably hat saved the program.
    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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    Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
    Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
    Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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        They also need to beef up air interception, with the Russian naval aviation probing.
        Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
        Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
        Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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        • #5
          The new 65,000-tonne carriers - HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales - will enter service in 2014 and 2016.
          Crappy names.

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          • #6
            What French participation? If I recall correctly, they were supposed to cooperate with the French but it fell through because Charles de Gaulle's performance hasn't been stellar. True?

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            • #7
              More toys for the boys

              Is it worth it?
              A new winter coat and shoes for the wife
              And a bicycle on the boy's birthday
              It's just a rumour that was spread around town
              By the women and children
              Soon we'll be shipbuilding.......
              Well I ask you
              The boy said "Dad they're going to take me to task, but I'll be back by Christmas"
              It's just a rumour that was spread around town
              Somebody said that someone got filled in
              For saying that people get killed in
              The result of this shipbuilding
              With all the will in the world
              Diving for dear life
              When we could be diving for pearls
              It's just a rumour that was spread around town
              A telegram or a picture postcard
              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
              And notifying the next of kin
              Once again
              It's all we're skilled in
              We will be shipbuilding........
              With all the will in the world
              Diving for dear life
              When we could be diving for pearls.
              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
              And notifying the next of kin
              Once again...

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              • #8
                I was hoping this thread was about Registered Nurses...
                Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VetLegion
                  What French participation? If I recall correctly, they were supposed to cooperate with the French but it fell through because Charles de Gaulle's performance hasn't been stellar. True?
                  The PA2 is basically going to be the CVF with French Electronics and a conventional catapult instead of a ski jump.

                  Crappy names.
                  Traditionally, RN Capital ships are named after the reigning monarch, followed by "Prince of Wales".
                  Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                  • #10
                    First thought - Random Number
                    Second thought - Registered Nurse

                    Way off.
                    Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                    When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                    • #11
                      Given the poster, I knew it was the Royal Navy.

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                      • #12
                        True. I never look at the poster when I click a thread.

                        I should probably work on that though. I always end up being enticed by Pekka's thread titles only to find out that... it's a Pekka thread.
                        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                        When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                        • #13
                          What is an unregistered nurse? Serious question.

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                            Someone with an education from a "prestigious" university in India.
                            "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                            "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
                            "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sandman


                              Crappy names.
                              My thoughts were the same.

                              I liked it when they chose names like HMS Fury, HMS Revenge and HMS Scourge.

                              Even HMS Spanker was a better name.
                              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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