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Well, if they have a suspect, doesn't that imply there is a version of events?
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yes. it also implies that there's enough evidence to bring criminal charges.
i'm pleased that we're taking a tough line on this. how is britain supposed to accept a nasty little police state like russia killing our citizens on our own soil."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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I wonder if it made that funny Civ2 sound when they were expelled.
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Did a jury find Russia guilty then? Or is this trial by media?Originally posted by C0ckney
how is britain supposed to accept a nasty little police state like russia killing our citizens on our own soil.Comment
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this sums it up very nicely.Does anyone really challenge that the russian (something) had litvinenko killed?
there is a lot of evidence that lugovoi is the man responsible, enough in fact to bring a criminal prosecution. it's harder to prove who he was working for or who gave the order to kill litvinenko, but you don't exactly need to be sherlock holmes to identify the most likely culprits..."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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such as...Originally posted by C0ckney
there is a lot of evidence that lugovoi is the man responsible
So why isn't there one?enough in fact to bring a criminal prosecution
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are you dull or something?"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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I don't think the UK conducts many of them in absentia.Originally posted by VJ
So why isn't there one?
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Well excuse me, but if there's no official prosecution, I'd like to see the evidence which makes him so obviously guilty myself.Originally posted by C0ckney
are you dull or something?
"Everybody knows that this is true" theories have the tendency to turn into embarrassments for their advocates because they are so poorly researched due to total lack of self-questioning about the validity.Last edited by RGBVideo; July 17, 2007, 10:39.Comment
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This Russian "something" may well be the Russian criminals welcome in Britain by the British state. But it could also be MI6 trying to frame Russia. (Most likely, a combination of both.)Originally posted by C0ckney
cort:
Does anyone really challenge that the russian (something) had litvinenko killed?
this sums it up very nicely.
Scotland Yard just honestly examined the traces left by MI6 and concluded they were leading to Russia.
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I don't know if he's obviously guilty but there is enough evidence to justify a trial.Originally posted by VJ
Well excuse me, but if there's no official prosecution, I'd like to see the evidence which makes him so obviously guilty myself.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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They could conduct the trial in Russia. Yes, the Russian justice system is screwed and biased. I know, I know. Yet this would provide a tribune to the Brits to prove their case. But apparently they've not got too much of a case. It is the propagandistic effect that they seek. They just need to cover up their own asses.Originally posted by DinoDoc
I don't think the UK conducts many of them in absentia.Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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Nasty, but not little.Originally posted by C0ckney
i'm pleased that we're taking a tough line on this. how is britain supposed to accept a nasty little police state like russia killing our citizens on our own soil.
Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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Considering we basically think his murder was sanctioned by Putin to get at Berezovski how could we possibly expect him to have a fair trial in Russia? There's enough evidence to request extradition, which in itself isn't something we'd do lightly.Originally posted by The Vagabond
They could conduct the trial in Russia. Yes, the Russian justice system is screwed and biased. I know, I know. Yet this would provide a tribune to the Brits to prove their case. But apparently they've not got too much of a case. It is the propagandistic effect that they seek. They just need to cover up their own asses.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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If not a fair trial, then at least a tribune to present your case to the world.Originally posted by MikeH
Considering we basically think his murder was sanctioned by Putin to get at Berezovski how could we possibly expect him to have a fair trial in Russia?
As for a "fair" trial, I highly doubt that a fair trial is possible in this case in principle, even in Britain. Don't get me wrong. I am of much higher opinion of the British courts than of the Russian ones. Yet in the case where "raison d'etat" is involved, I would not expect a fair trial even from the best possible Anglo-Saxon court.
But extradiction of the citizens is forbidden by the Russian constitution and is not required by international laws.There's enough evidence to request extradition, which in itself isn't something we'd do lightly.Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.Comment
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