hey Germans

[Barnabas]

Kirchner is pronounced

Keer + "ch" as in "ich" + ner, right?

I ask because I noticed many people here, who dont want to pronounce the surname as in spanish, say keer + "sch" as in schroeder + ner

Which is wrong I think.

[Ecthy]

Depends.

[Barnabas]

so, how do you pronounce the ch in Kirchner?

[bipolarbear]

Wouldn't Wikipedia have this? They alwyas include a little piece on pronunciation.

[Ecthy]

I do as you described in the OP, though I don't know if you know how to pronounce "ich"

[Alexander I]

Depends on the dialect, really.

[snoopy369]

Kirschner is also a common form of the name, iirc (Jewish I think). As it undoubtedly varies how the name was obtained to the particular family (although hopefully less confusing than in America, where many non-english surnames undergo drastic respellings upon immigration), I'd say that however the owner of said name wants it pronounced, is how it should be pronounced.

There's a town in Missouri named Versailles, prounounced ver-Say-ells, and many people incorrectly prounounce it ver-Sai as in French. It's up to those to whom the name belongs ...

[Wernazuma III]

I guess, some dialects have the "ch" sound more like English "sh" than like Spanish "j", but in standard German "ch" equals Spanish "j/g".
Then again, there are some exceptions, like "China", which many Germans pronounce "Shina" while Austrians pronounce it more like "Kina".

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Then again, there are some exceptions, like "China", which many Germans pronounce "Shina" while Austrians pronounce it more like "Kina".

Bavarians say "Kina" too (these barbarians). One more proof that Austrians are just a bunch of Bajuware renegades.

And yes, Kirchner is pronounced as in the OP described, if "ich" is meant as the German translation of "I".

[BeBMan]

Re: hey Germans

Originally posted by Barnabas
I ask because I noticed many people here, who dont want to pronounce the surname as in spanish, say keer + "sch" as in schroeder + ner

Which is wrong I think.

You're correct if we talk about "High German".

There ch |= sch.

Aside from this it's - like the others have written - a matter of dialect.

[Harovan]

Re: Re: hey Germans

Originally posted by BeBro
You're correct if we talk about "High German".

It's only them filthy Berlinians who are high Germans. All others loathe drugs!

[BeBMan]

[Last Conformist]

In Drunk German it's "Kiaschnah".

[Ecthy]

Wernazuma? You're omitting 50% of all "-ch"s.

[Japher]

If you were to sing that name in German it would make your ears bleed...

I would pronounce the "ch" as I would at the end of "Church"