Is Hillary Hatred simply misogyny?

[SpencerH]

The funny thing is that of the current crop of democrat candidates (read liberal ****heads) Hillary is more likely to take action against our enemies than the others. Not for the correct reasons of course (ie we have a right to defend ourselves from from the actions of religious fundamanetalists) but rather that she'll do whatever seems to be in her best interests.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Hillary outed herself as not being moderate when she unvieled her health plan in Clinton's first term.

Please... if anything she showed herself as being slightly ahead of the times. Nowadays her plan is fairly tame on the universal health care proposals and every Dem candidate is advancing one.

[DinoDoc]

I guarantee you those plans aren't nearly as ill-concieved.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Perhaps in your opinion. Looking back, I think the Clinton Health Care plan was actually a fairly decent idea. A mid point between what the US has now and the British style single payer health care system.

As an article in the New Republic stated:

In Washington, at least, praising HillaryCare will get you laughed off the talk shows. But...if you look closely at the proposals experts and officials are tossing around, you may start to recognize some familiar elements...They also envision, as did HillaryCare, a government role in making sure affordable, high-quality plans are made available — typically, by creating (again, like HillaryCare) some sort of purchasing cooperative through which some, if not all, of the population would buy their coverage. That’s true of the plan former Senator John Edwards proposed as part of his presidential campaign a few months ago. It’s true of the plan Senator Ron Wyden introduced in Congress back in December. It’s even true of the plan former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney signed into law before leaving office last year — even though Romney has made mocking HillaryCare a staple of his campaign rhetoric as he seeks the Republican presidential nomination.

[Ramo]

I guarantee you those plans aren't nearly as ill-concieved.

True, but that's only because those plans - Obama's and Edwards' - are significantly to the left of Hillary's (closer to single-payer).

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Hillary outed herself as not being moderate when she unvieled her health plan in Clinton's first term.

Her health plan was an exceedingly right wing, pro-corporate PoS. Everyone has to buy into a health plan!?! Yeah, that's soooooo liberal.

[Kuciwalker]

I love you, che.

[Drake Tungsten]

A mid point between what the US has now and the British style single payer health care system.

Why would anyone want to move toward a British-style system? The British NHS is a piece of crap, even worse than Canada's healthcare system.

[Ramo]

Perhaps in your opinion. Looking back, I think the Clinton Health Care plan was actually a fairly decent idea. A mid point between what the US has now and the British style single payer health care system.

The UK doesn't have a single payer system. Canada, for instance, does.

[Dis]

all I want is universal health care, is that so hard?

though I think about it, and it probably would be cheaper to buy my own versus the tax increase of a goverment funded program. The biggest issue is I think I'm immortal and never will get hurt, therefore I'll never buy any. And of course the people with no ability to control their spending, they will be without.

The best solution would be to have goverment funded healthcare paid for by a tax increase of the rich. .

[Darius871]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Darius sighting!

*runs in Phantom of the Opera fashion*

[Timexwatch]

I'm not a fan. Hillary Rodham would be a partner at a major Chicago law firm with a nice house and a decent bank account. She wouldn't be running for Senator from New York nor would she be running for President.

It's an insult to women that the candidate who may be elected to the Presidency got there because of her husband. At least Geraldine Ferraro, who could've been a heartbeat away. earned it and didn't have a spouse's political machine to grease the wheels for her. If Hillary was serious, she would've went back to Illinois and duked it out with Dick Durbin or Obama for the Fitzgerald seat.

[SlowwHand]

Geraldine Ferraro is a good reference.

[Odin]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
>obscure old labor leftist group subforum

New Old Left Forum:

[Odin]

Hillary is a pandering, flip-flopping, focus grouping triangulator of the worst kind. I rember reading how back in the 70s she supported "Childrens Rights," 15 years later she was doing just the opposite.