Is Hillary Hatred simply misogyny?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Consider that the most vehement Hillary-haters love Maggie Thatcher.

Their problem is not strong women. It's strong women who have views different than theirs.

Maggie, however, is one of those women who are "non-women." They are honorary men, and considered part of the old boy network. Thatcher was definitely hated woman, but the hatred against her was not anywhere near as misogynist as the form the hatred against Clinton takes.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
And Jean Kirkpatrick.

Ive met Jean Kirkpatrick. Long time ago, pre-Reagan, when she was still a dem, and not too distant from when she was a Socialist (but never a Trotskyite, despite the stereotype about neocons)

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

What were your impressions of her aside her politics? How old were you at the time?

[chequita guevara]

SDUSA

[Dis]

I have to conclude from some comments that some people are inferring all conservatives are misogynists. I've seen that kind of attitude on here before.

And I'm not seeing this hatred. Granted I don't watch Fox news anymore, and don't listen to right wing radio. But surely she isn't that hated.

contrary to what some of you may believe, not all conservatives are evil fascists.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Dis
I have to conclude from some comments that some people are inferring all conservatives are misogynists. I've seen that kind of attitude on here before.

And I'm not seeing this hatred. Granted I don't watch Fox news anymore, and don't listen to right wing radio. But surely she isn't that hated.

contrary to what some of you may believe, not all conservatives are evil fascists.

QFT

[Barnabas]

These are quotes I took from the catholic forum I post in, that I posted in an apolyton 2005 thread (real boris and tedstriker still posted..)

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139584&perpage=30&pagenumber=3

"Bill was just a disgusting, buffoonish moron who couldn't control his baser instincts, and thus was nothing more than a sleazy, viscous slug.

Hillary, on the other hand, is a totally cold, vicious, conniving power-mongerer who has her sights set on the Presidency at all costs....she is ten trillion times more threatening than Bill could ever hope to be. Bill was just a slob----Hillary is dangerous.

If Hillary Clinton ever gets to be President of these United States, we will cease to exist as a nation within eighteen months."



"I would vote for Osama bin Laden before I would vote for Hillary. At least he is against abortion and gay marriage."

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
What were your impressions of her aside her politics? How old were you at the time?

I was a teenager, it was at a a meeting of this obscure cold warrior Dem group call Coalition for a Democratic Majority (which spawned SOME of the neocons), I vaguely recall her as polite, and smart.

sorry i have nothing more insightful.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
SDUSA

Just to clarify this was at a meeting of CDM, not SDUSA, I was never in fact a member of SDUSA (more of a fellow traveler) I believe Kirkpatrick was a member of SDUSA, or YPSL, or perhaps both.

[lord of the mark]

>obscure old labor leftist group subforum

[DinoDoc]

I do have to say I find it sad, che think one is unable to not like a person without their being somesort of racist or sexist angle involved.

[chequita guevara]

Oh please, DD, spare me the faux disappointment.

Also, I didn't say it was all about sexism. But the level of hatred leveled against her is out of proportion. She's a run of the mill moderate, maybe slightly liberal politician. She will no doubt seek to steal some conservative agendas as her husband did, but she's hardly the threat to the nation that some people make her to to be.

Hmmm, you know, it seems that you conservatives have more ire for moderate Dems than you do for liberal ones. The liberals you mock and ridicule, but the moderates you hate. The conservatives, like Lieberman, you love of course.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Is it possible to not like a member of a minority for something other than their minority status?

Die Hard had it right.

Minority?

[DinoDoc]

Hillary outed herself as not being moderate when she unvieled her health plan in Clinton's first term.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Hillary is my least favorite Democrate both on electability (because of the whole Hillary hate thing and nation not ready for female President) and on her political positions (voted 4 War). That said I'd vote for Lenin's corpse if it were the Democratic nominee, the Republicans must but out of office.

I can say honestly I don't have anything against female politicians, I voted for my States Govenor, Janet Napolatano who's done a great job and might have a very strong chance to make a presidential race herself in a cycle or two.