Cheney: Office not part of executive branch

[Kuciwalker]

Or C. separation of powers doesn't preclude the VP in cabinet meetings (the President can surely invite whomever he wants), and today even moreso than then it's important for the replacement President to be up-to-date.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Or C. separation of powers doesn't preclude the VP in cabinet meetings (the President can surely invite whomever he wants), and today even moreso than then it's important for the replacement President to be up-to-date.

Could the president invite the Speaker of the House? Would that not be problematic?

But anyway, if George Washington was wrong on seperation of powers, and his precedent is not determinative on it, then he could also be wrong on the VP being legislative, and so THAT precedent would not be determinative.

[Kuciwalker]

ould the president invite the Speaker of the House? Would that not be problematic?

Why not?

But anyway, if George Washington was wrong on seperation of powers, and his precedent is not determinative on it, then he could also be wrong on the VP being legislative, and so THAT precedent would not be determinative.

I can see how separation of powers could justify excluding Cheney, but not how it would require excluding him.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

ould the president invite the Speaker of the House? Would that not be problematic?

Why not?

But anyway, if George Washington was wrong on seperation of powers, and his precedent is not determinative on it, then he could also be wrong on the VP being legislative, and so THAT precedent would not be determinative.

I can see how separation of powers could justify excluding Cheney, but not how it would require excluding him.

Seperation of powers means the guys who write the law are supposed to be different then the guys who implement it. Same reason a sitting congressman cant hold hold a job in the executive branch.

Now we arent all that strict about it these days, but I think having the speaker at a cabinet meeting might be considered to go over the line.

[Kuciwalker]

I'd say it's the executive's privilege to take advice from anyone he wants.

[Lorizael]

I'm not sure that George Washington should set precedent as far as this goes, btw. Sure, he was around when the Constitution was being written, but he really wasn't a part of its formation. He wasn't one of the founders writing long essays about it or hammering out the specifics of the language in the Continential Congress. Do we know what other early founders said about the Vice Presidency, other than it being useless?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why is his salary paid by the Senate?

Because they're a bunch of chump spenders with no sense of accountability?

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why is his salary paid by the Senate?

Because they're a bunch of chump spenders with no sense of accountability?

Erm, could it have anything to do with the fact that Congress, and not either of the other two branches, has the power to collect taxes as stipulated by Article 1 Section 8?

[Kuciwalker]

No...

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
No...

Then how, pray tell, would the Executive Branch constitutionally go about gathering revenue to pay it's own wages?

[Kuciwalker]

Congress would budget the money and the executive would distribute it. Duh. Do you think Rufus' check comes straight from Congress, too?

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Congress would budget the money and the executive would distribute it. Duh. Do you think Rufus' check comes straight from Congress, too?

I know it's not possible for you to NOT be an ass, but is it at all possible for you to answer simple questions without being a pretentious, condescending one too?

[Drake Tungsten]

Condescending I'll give you, but pretentious? Kuci? Really?

[DRoseDARs]

You know of anyone else having more bathrooms than you can count on one hand?

[Drake Tungsten]

I shouldn't have posted in this thread, BTW. Now I'm going to confuse it with the death threat thread...