A saying of Christian nature really bothers me

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Originally posted by Pekka
Everyone should basically just quit whining about the meaning of it. I did explain it in the very OP already from both perspectives.

If someone wants to argue about it, they should at least have their nipples pierced first.

what if the're already pierced?

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Originally posted by CyberShy
When Jesus says that it's not about some 'earthly' stuff, but about the eternal saving of man.

He says it about something in which God is directly involved. Not about something in which God is not directly involved. I think that a saying like that is being putted out of the original context way too often.

Anyway, I'm with Pekka on this.

God is not directly involved? Isn't God supposed to have a plan for your life according to your religion? I've always taken that to mean more than just going to heaven. And even if it is suppose to mean just going to heaven doesn't he have a plan to help you get there?