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    So I told my mom I was accepted to the position I applied for, but it carried heavy conditions I must be able to take care of. It's difficult, most would say impossible.. but I'll do my best and I'm optimistic.

    Anyway, she replied congratulating and saying basically that "What might seem impossible is a piece of cake for God".

    Now most of us would just let it go and forget about it. It's just a saying. But it really bothers me. I just find everything so offensive about it. I try not to be offended, but somehow I just am offended. You know, it's a difficult task ahead where I need to overcome obstacles of bureocratic nature, fight against time and basically do something most would consider not doable. Don't tell me that well, here's a prayer and maybe God will help you. What the **** is that all about? You know?

    I know it was said meaning good and that's the only reason I won't reply and just say to never say anything like that to me again as I find it offensive. So I'll shut up about it but I have to let it out in here.

    a.) It's about how much I can work in a short period of time, period. Do I get to blame God if I fail? b) I've worked very hard for this already. Hard. Is it because God gave me a break? No. I've worked too damn hard to be just noted that "oh well, you had some help". That's just offensive, I worked hard, let's leave the spiritual side out of this one, OK? c) Are you saying it's up to God and basically if I fail, it's because God didn't want me to succeed and d) is that my destiny and there's something else I was supposed to do? Go tell that to a kid with no legs, maybe he can appreciate he was meant to be a writer, clearly, if he only could write.

    AND as some sort of scientific field, you know I don't really like... I don't mind people commenting about science or stuff like that with religious arguments, it's just who people are and what they believe in, but I'm a serious science guy, I've worked hard and accomplished something, I work too much anyway, I could use a freaking vacation, pretty tired and wound up, so don't tell me something is easy for God.

    If you want to say something religious, use some logic and say that you hope I will have the strength to work hard and continue so I can finish this thing. OK? Not that "Well, you know, God might help you". Yeah, like how? Do my work? It doesn't get done by itself, so please, do not undermine the effort and task ahead. It's head explosion kind of work load, do not say that oh well, maybe I get some help with it, and magically prayers will help me and I will succeed. You don't say that to a science guy who is overworked and underpaid. It just shows the lack of perspective or respect. And I have the right to feel this way, the way I show respect is to shut up about it and never mention it and pretend I just didn't get freaking mad.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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  • #2
    Get a grip, Pekka. Your analysis of everything is out of control.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #3
      I often wonder what individual women/minorities think when they work their ass of the achieve something, and instead of getting personal congratulations everyone turns it into a "victory for the whatever community."

      You worked hard, YOU deserve the credit Pekka.
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      • #4
        No it isn't, because there isn't any analysis involved. I know that's not what the intention was, so she just didn't predict how it might be interpreted by me. I would like to accept different kinds of stuff, God bless etc. That's cool.

        But this is simply overriding my domain, and that domain is very distinctively out of spiritual domain, I do not want to have any claims that have implications that undermine the effort there is. Because that's exactly what it does. Like I said, hoping for strength etc, that's a different thing, that would be just fine. This one? Doesn't fly.
        In da butt.
        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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        • #5
          "What might seem impossible is a piece of cake for God".

          That's what set him off. That's ridiculous.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Patrokolos, yeah, absolutely. ANd it's not that I need to hear that "YEAH YOU ROCK!". I mean I say that to myself all the time .

            But... just not bring spiritual things into it. That's just giving me some space, I don't come to anyone else and force my stuff either. And I'm a Christian myself, it's not like would hate the thing, it's just that I'd like to think that my own mother doesn't think everyone's destiny as well as mien is because of God, and especially mine, and everythign I do is because of God. That is offensive, simply out of line. Maybe that's the way she rolls, but that's not the way I roll.

            I mean it's like.. it's a reactive way to think about things. It's well "it's not in our hands anymore". That's cool, maybe people believe in destiny, but it's just so on the other opposite from what I do, so... kindly not try to enforce beliefs that overrides my domain that I so much love and work hard for.
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #7
              Sloww, maybe to you it seems ridiculous but to me it just seems offensive.

              It is as if I'm trying to jump off of a cliff, saying that well, chances are I'm not going to survive thins one and "Well, what seems impossible...".
              In da butt.
              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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              • #8
                Ok, Pekka. You and your great mind that just morphed into being can handle things yourself.
                You believe this, I believe something else.
                Your emotion at your mother is out of line, though.
                If it means nothing, why let it bother you?
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  The only reason that I should just forget about it is because I know it was meant with good intentions and nothing else.

                  But oh well.
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                  THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                  "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                  • #10
                    You're such a hippy, Pekka.
                    ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                    • #11
                      Re: A saying of Christian nature really bothers me

                      Originally posted by Pekka
                      "What might seem impossible is a piece of cake for God".
                      All that means is that you can only do your best. Worrying and putting pressure on yourself isn't going to help. Don't carry the world on your shoulders. Don't worry, be happy. Let go, let god etc..

                      I think it would do you well to take it to heart. It might help you a lot.
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                      • #12
                        Sloww, what do you mean out of line? How are they out of line? I said the saying bothers me, not my mother.

                        If it bothers me, maybe it means something, I don't know. Maybe it's that maybe one thing I don't like about religions is the reactive giving up on things, "letting God handle everything". Why not just work it out ourselves, if we are God's children, you know, I think we can give it a shot. We don't need stand idle and hope for the best, that's BS IMO, in every single case.

                        I never said what I believe in though, anything else that I don't believe in a set destiny that reveals itself through painful losses. Not unless God is a sadist of course.

                        The point is, we should all have professional respect for each other. I don't go to the church and shoot people in the face for believing the earth is 5000 years old because we can prove it isn't, and I hope they don't come and shoot my face because I do evil science.
                        In da butt.
                        "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                        THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                        "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                        • #13
                          Kid, dude, I know...

                          OK Sloww, maybe I am a bit ridiculous about it. Jeesh, I know it wasn't meant to be offensive. Sometimes weird things kind of irritate people, just the smallest things. Maybe I'm interpreting this on purpose to be offended, who knows.

                          Also I don't REALLY think my mother should pay me professional respect in the way I said earlier. We have another relationship and it's not exactly professional. So... it shoudln't matter. It really doens't matter, but it did tick me off.

                          You see? I feel a lot better about it already. Just needed to vent some ideas.

                          Besides, I saw my mom few weeks ago... I was really nervous because it's been a while, but it always goes well. You know, even though we see maybe once a year max for a very short period of time, less than a day, it's always on familiar basis, no pressure once you actually meet. And I'm glad she's coming again in 2 months, because I had regrets that our last meeting was so short, because I had to leave for another thing, so it was kind of stupid. So.. I feel good about things, wasn't always like this though.
                          In da butt.
                          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                          • #14
                            Pekka,

                            You don't have to answer this because it's personal. But what did you want your mom to say?
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #15
                              I don't know. I guess it doesn't really matter what the words are, intention counts.

                              But it's pretty much out of my system already, I just needed to rant a bit. I just felt it undermines the effort, that's all.
                              In da butt.
                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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