News: Gay hotel can ban straights

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Lazerus


In Russia they can.

I'm more interested in Australia.

[Winston]

What a ridiculous story altogether. I'm not entirely convinced how this will serve to further the acceptance of gay people in society.

But by all means let them discriminate if it makes them any happier.

[-Jrabbit]

According to the story, all the hotel was granted was the right to refuse entry to those people it deems would make its clients uncomfortable. i don't see anything about banning all heteros. They simply applied for, and received, the ability to provide a supportive environment for their client base, including denying entry and/or ejecting openly anti-gay jerks. It's a reasonable approach.

[Jon Miller]

So can a hotel that caters to conservative christians have the right to refuse entry to homosexuals? To provide a supportive environment?

Or how about a hotel in the south, that mostly has white clients, have the right to refuse entry to african americans... so that they ahve the ability to provide a supportive environment to their client base?

Now I know this is Australia, without our protections. But in the US this would be unconstitutional.

JM

[Kuciwalker]

Now I know this is Australia, without our protections. But in the US this would be unconstitutional.

No it wouldn't.

[Perfection]

Hows about you can do what you want on your own goddamned private property regardless of sexual preference.

[DinoDoc]

That right died during the Warren Court.

[Perfection]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
That right died during the Warren Court.

Even in Australia?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
According to the story, all the hotel was granted was the right to refuse entry to those people it deems would make its clients uncomfortable. i don't see anything about banning all heteros. They simply applied for, and received, the ability to provide a supportive environment for their client base, including denying entry and/or ejecting openly anti-gay jerks. It's a reasonable approach.

Yeah, it appears that the story has gotten a bit ahead of itself. The court said they can ban people who'd make a threatening environment, including straights who are trying to gay bash. Not that they can ban all straights.

[q=Jon Miller]Now I know this is Australia, without our protections. But in the US this would be unconstitutional.[/q]

To expound on Kuci's point, sexual orientation is not a protected class (in the US).

[Kuciwalker]

Even if it were race it wouldn't be unconstitutional. Illegal, certainly.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I don't think he really cares about the specificities, as long as it gets struck down somewhere along the way.

[Perfection]

Hows about the ban on banning homosexuals gets removed?

[Berzerker]

But in the US this would be unconstitutional.

modern courts have decided private property used as a business open to the public is effectively public property wrt discrimination. That was a large power grab by the government, and the Feds simply dont have the power under the Constitution to tell business owners they gotta do business with people they dont like. Nevertheless there are exceptions, night clubs, country clubs, exclusive organizations...

[SlowwHand]

People are protected.
The discussion has gone from hotels to clubs.
Behind the closed doors of a hotel, who cares?
In a public setting, sex is illegal, so why should anyone be banned from a club? All should conduct themselves in a manner that isn't demeaning. Why be a spectacle?

[Perfection]

What should the legal difference be between a hotel and club?