ABC/Mormons take on Emo kids

[DRoseDARs]

Emo is Goth evolved ... whinier.

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Emo is Goth evolved ... whinier.

And even more effeminate. I'm shocked that that's even possible, but it is somehow.

[Pekka]

Once again the adult world is trying to get shocked about subcultures that they aren't familiar with. Now I don't know anything about this emo thing, but to me it just makes sense to separate things into the perspective domains.

If a kid is cutting himself, well, that's a symptom of a problem. Forget emo. So they're cutting themselves and you'd be worried that they might be emo kids? Are you ****ing stupid? You should be worried that they are cutting themselves and find out why. Teens do that sometimes, it's not necessarily suicidial. Just talk like a person and not like an authority, find out, establish communication. You find it out if they want to talk to you. They sure as hell won't talk to an authority figure about it, they'll lie. Authority figure and unconditional trust aren't the same thing, and very rarely include each other.

Maybe if that kid was able to talk about it earlier if there is a problem, as in you talk to them and you know what's up, not becuase you're a stalker but because you talk and it's natural and all that, maybe it wouldn't have gone that far or at least you'd know about it.

Make sense? If so, watch that clip again and notice it doesn't make any sense at all. Talk about the worst possible approach ever.

[Pekka]

But then again, when a kid is a teen and there's an adult, it's just not that easy. They might not trust you the way they should be able to, they don't know the consequences or maybe they just prefer talking to their friends or just not talk about it.

What I do when I want to find out something is that I just want to tap into that moment the person is experiencing. How? It's just simple activation, some might call it manipulative but it isn't unless you want to force an idea into their heads. That is, ask questions about their feelings and explore that further and further. Maybe they'll open up to tell you something in the course of doing it. For example instead of asking why you cut yourself (or worse, don't you know how that makes me feel - guilt and blame game isn't going to work) you could ask how does cutting yourself make you feel? How would you describe that feeling? If it's pain, well don't ask why would you want to feel pain. Instead, ask well how does that pain feel? And what do you think about that?

It's just a start, I won't go over how I'd talk to a person about it, because to me everything is down to science ... but people usually talk to me openly after a while if I work it. The rest of you just think they do, but not really, most people won't get into that stream, because they don't know how to tap into it, it's through feelings and exploring them and working it out that way and there are strict conditions and rules about it so yeah, it's down to science

Conclusion: this whole emo thing is stupid, parents are being even bigger idiots and do not have the tools to simply communicate and raise their kids, but I'm great and excellent myself. And because this conclusion is perfect, all the statements made in this conclusion must be valid, becuase according to it I am great and excellent and by saying it my conclusion must be right, and therefor I am great and the conclusion itself is perfect.

[VetLegion]

Seems like just another teen movement.

[ZEE]

if somebody called me an Emo i just might hafta kick their ass.

that is a grave insult where i am from...
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[Jon Miller]

AAHZ, I am pretty sure that you are Emo.

JM

[ZEE]

look at my new pic in the picture thread in the community forum then decide
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[b etor]

a lot of kids cut their arms. they don't need psychological help, they need love.

[Barnabas]

I dont want to be "the voice of the third world" or self righteous, but really, these kids dont know what suffering is (that doesnt mean they dont have a right to suffer), I ve seen real poverty, these emo kids need to be slapped in the face by their parents in my opinion.

Has anyone asked them why are they so sad?

[b etor]

no, people don't ask. they do it for the attention.

[b etor]

family of eight eating dinner...

mother: show your father your arm
girl: *tenses* what do you mean..
mother: show him you wrists!
girl: *slowly turns her arms over*
father: *jumps out of his chair* WHAT THE ****!? WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS!?!? YOU NEED ATTENTION!??! *smacks girl in the face* YOU WANT PAIN?!?! *punches girl in stomach* I'LL SHOW YOU PAIN!!!!! *starts to beat up girl*
girl's sister: *cries*

[Barnabas]

girl: My father hates, I want to die, why is the world against me ***cries*** no one understands me!!!

[MRT144]

African kid: I will work hard for you family and take your rebellious daughter's place *kills cutting girl and family prospers*

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by MRT144
African kid: I will work hard for you family and take your rebellious daughter's place *kills cutting girl and family prospers*

Lets not start off down that route, you know what this place is like.....5 more posts and they'll be arguing about wheat subsidies and Third World population demographics