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**TheStinger** · May 25, 2007, 04:32

Possibly to avoid a debilitating disease, for anything else no

**Jon Miller** · May 25, 2007, 04:47

definitely add tenticles

JM

**_BuRjaCi_** · May 25, 2007, 05:07

It’s always silly to see how people don’t get that when all the heavy deficiencies will be removed form our children, we will change our view on what is a major disability.
And once we star curing what we would today be considered minor aliments or flaws, we will not resist the urge to tinker around some more, since a child with no special traits in a society of perfect health and no intelligence below what we would today consider average is de facto below average if not even “burdened” in that society.

In for the penny in for the pound.

But I don’t have a problem with radically changing humanity (I’m almost a transhumanist after all), I just don’t like shortsightedness in human thinking.

**Jon Miller** · May 25, 2007, 05:10

I did think the Gattaca movie had a decent expression of some of the issues.

JM

**_BuRjaCi_** · May 25, 2007, 05:36

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I did think the Gattaca movie had a decent expression of some of the issues.

JM

Did anyone notice that genetic discrimination was technically banned in the dystopian society?

The only way to prevent this form happening is not by encouraging technophobia but by expanding the universal health care system to provide the right for at least some enhancements to all people.

(Note: But to do that you would require a universal health system wouldn’t you?

:looking at America as the site of a future dystopia for no apparent reason:

)

And by expanding civil rights to all sentient creatures thus avoiding slavery of parahumans or AI, which besides being morally repugnant would have “unwelcome” long term consequences. The death penalty for practical reasons mustn’t have a place in such a world ( :looking at America AND China as the sites of a future dystopia for no apparent reason: ).

**FrostyBoy** · May 25, 2007, 05:41

If everyone had perfect hearing, would we have Beethoven?

**Sandman** · May 25, 2007, 05:43

Is it right to have deaf kids on the off chance that one of them will become a Beethoven?

**TheStinger** · May 25, 2007, 05:47

Originally posted by Sn00py
If everyone had perfect hearing, would we have Beethoven?

yes

**BeBMan** · May 25, 2007, 05:56

Fukuyama thinks that using genetical engineering/other biotech stuff of humans on a broad scale (not only to heal illness etc, but to fundamentally "improve" humans as such) means the end of our ideas of human rights and democracy as we know them.

**Ecthy** · May 25, 2007, 05:58

Fukuyama sees many ends of stuff as we know it, right....

**_BuRjaCi_** · May 25, 2007, 05:59

Originally posted by BeBro
Fukuyama thinks that using genetical engineering/other biotech stuff of humans on a broad scale means the end of our ideas of human rights and democracy as we know it.

Well, he did predict the end of history.

**BeBMan** · May 25, 2007, 06:00

Yep

That history thing didn't work out so well, but that's another story.

**_BuRjaCi_** · May 25, 2007, 06:01

You win some you loose some. He'll get something right… eventually.

**BeBMan** · May 25, 2007, 06:02

Originally posted by _BuRjaCi_

Well, he did predict the end of history.

Well, does this prove anything regarding his position on other issues?

edit, ok x-post

**C0ckney** · May 25, 2007, 06:11

Originally posted by TheStinger
Possibly to avoid a debilitating disease, for anything else no

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